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Front M5 fuselage bolt from Moses Vorace and Comet getting loose

Postby nikalaitzian » Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:36 pm

Hello guys..

me and my kite buddy experience the same thing.No matter we tight the front M5 conical bolt that holds the fuselage after a while when we make a brake its getting loose.specialy on the comet today it was so loose that you can twist it with your fingers...Do you have the same problem?

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Re: FRONT M5 bolt from MOSES VORACE and COMET getting loose

Postby TomW » Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:44 pm

I'm pretty sure they are M6, and you are referring to the flathead, countersunk screws to attach fuselage to the mast?
I have 2016 Fluente and find that sometimes the front screw is a bit loose after a number of sessions. But it's not finger loose, it's like 1/4 turn to totally tighten.
So check mine every session.
I'm using the Torx version of the screws

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Re: FRONT M5 fuselage bolt from MOSES VORACE and COMET getting loose

Postby cwood » Sat Nov 04, 2017 7:14 pm

Yes I have had this frustration on 2 Vorace masts. I even lost a screw in a session. I have switched to torx but same issue. I did a more extensive back and forth tightening (front to rear to front etc) yesterday and it seemed a bit better. I think it could be that the mast is not fully seating into the fuse with a casual tightening and that a more complete bedding with front to rear alternating and tightening made a difference.

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Re: FRONT M5 fuselage bolt from MOSES VORACE and COMET getting loose

Postby BraCuru » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:57 pm

I experienced the same on two Comets. Not on the other Moses foils.
In both cases the issue disappeared itself after 3-4 sessions.
No problem any more in our cases.
How many sessions did you make on your Comet?

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Re: FRONT M5 fuselage bolt from MOSES VORACE and COMET getting loose

Postby NorCalNomad » Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:09 pm

Having bolts come loose is not a torque issue. Use some sort of thread sealer and it will help.

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Re: FRONT M5 fuselage bolt from MOSES VORACE and COMET getting loose

Postby cwood » Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:40 pm

NorCalNomad wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:09 pm
Having bolts come loose is not a torque issue. Use some sort of thread sealer and it will help.
Will try a wrap of teflon tape

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Re: Front M5 fuselage bolt from Moses Vorace and Comet getting loose

Postby grigorib » Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:56 pm

Same issue here too.
Any reason not give a try to locktite?

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Re: Front M5 fuselage bolt from Moses Vorace and Comet getting loose

Postby cwood » Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:30 pm

grigorib wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:56 pm
Same issue here too.
Any reason not give a try to locktite?
locktite is a locker....which is fine if you don't remove your fuse much. (there are varying strengths of it) I leave wings mounted and remove the unit when I am transporting to and from launches so I don't want to use something like that.

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Re: Front M5 fuselage bolt from Moses Vorace and Comet getting loose

Postby TomW » Sat Nov 04, 2017 11:01 pm

I was wondering if it's dirt / sand on the joint too. I've not experienced this as a problem really. Overall I think the Moses system is uncomplicated and robust.

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Re: FRONT M5 fuselage bolt from MOSES VORACE and COMET getting loose

Postby nikalaitzian » Sat Nov 04, 2017 11:51 pm

BraCuru wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:57 pm
I experienced the same on two Comets. Not on the other Moses foils.
In both cases the issue disappeared itself after 3-4 sessions.
No problem any more in our cases.
How many sessions did you make on your Comet?
A lot .... i mean more than 50


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