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Peert
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Re: G10 wing replacement for fragile carbon

Postby Peert » Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:45 pm

Dwight wrote:
Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:45 pm
I’m not sure the Gong AOA would help. I owned one. Their stab is asymmetric wing at 0 degrees, best I could measure. While other foils I’ve owned had stabs with symmetric foils at angles up to 3 degrees to make lift.

FYI Gong foil is on sale for 799. It’s a good foil. I wish I still had mine.
Can you elborate a bit more on the qualities of Gong foil?
- Build quality
- Riding character
- speed
- easy of use

Any experience with their boards as well?

I am considering to replace my heavy TFF Manta by something else.
Gong is an option, or a carbon Moses.

Since waterdepth is not as easy to memorize on all spots I ride the G10 wings of the Gong are an advantage.

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Re: G10 wing replacement for fragile carbon

Postby Dwight » Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:42 pm

The gong is very high quality. Flawless carbon work. It’s made by sonic composites in China.

The large wings are more stable and easier to learn to jibe. The medium wings feel slightly more efficient. I thought the M4 screws holding the stab were too small. It was easy to bend the screws dropping the foil on the beach. I retapped the brass barrel nuts to M5. The stab was sturdy after doing the mod and I never bent the M5 screws.

The foil was silent running.

I think the whole kit weighed 7lbs if memory is correct.

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Re: G10 wing replacement for fragile carbon

Postby Peert » Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:24 am

@Dwight: thanks for the responses. Why did you sell the gong foil if I may ask?

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Re: G10 wing replacement for fragile carbon

Postby Dwight » Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:44 pm

Peert wrote:
Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:24 am
@Dwight: thanks for the responses. Why did you sell the gong foil if I may ask?
I tried a SUP foil and fell in love. I’m kiting with the Naish SUP foil.

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Re: G10 wing replacement for fragile carbon

Postby Foil » Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:08 pm

What?
A SUP set up on your foil board sounds like a mistake, now I am confused.
I have seen the SUP wings, they are Massive, so very thick and Blunt edges, but you like the way it sails.
Tell us why? Is it something that we should try? Why do you like it so much?
I am wondering if I am missing out on something.

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Re: G10 wing replacement for fragile carbon

Postby Dwight » Sun Dec 10, 2017 7:27 pm

Foil wrote:
Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:08 pm
What?
A SUP set up on your foil board sounds like a mistake, now I am confused.
I have seen the SUP wings, they are Massive, so very thick and Blunt edges, but you like the way it sails.
Tell us why? Is it something that we should try? Why do you like it so much?
I am wondering if I am missing out on something.
We discovered how fun it is to ride these SUP wings after buying them to SUP, then using them with a kite on days we could not SUP. You can feel the wave energy transmit through the foil 10x more than a kite foil. It feels like surfing on a foil. Very cool and a new way to have fun. I use a 70cm mast for the SUP foil.

I kept my tall mast, fast, gong foil for days when I might get bored using the SUP foil , but I found myself using the SUP foil 95% of the time, so I sold my gong foil.

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Gear: Moses T60 Carbon board,91cm and 101cm Carbon foils.
325/330 Stabs. Both fuses.
Wings- 590/550/548,
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Re: G10 wing replacement for fragile carbon

Postby Foil » Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:06 pm

I have found a few new SUP foils complete with Tuttle box and plate mount adaptor for less than £600 new, not carbon of course.
The Naish set up from "King of water-sports" (with unwanted board) is priced up at over £3200, yikes!
I am at Flag Beach from Thursday and will bump into Gunner (Gb) on this forum, so will seek his advice and see if I can hire a rig to fit my board.


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