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grigorib
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Re: “pocket” foilboard

Postby grigorib » Sun Feb 04, 2018 7:30 pm

jash999 wrote:
Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:38 am
grigor,

check out zeeko pocket foilboard at 108 cms. has very low volume but good rocker, full pad and tracks (standard dimensions) so you can use any foil. I am very happy with mine for strapless riding if wind is over 12 knots.
Yep, Zeeko pocket foil looks sweet. Thinner and lighter than 42” Dwarfcraft. If only it was a bit shorter too.

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Re: “pocket” foilboard

Postby grigorib » Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:35 am

Peter_Frank wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:03 pm
...
Most of us arent that good, particularly when sub 10 knots, where we touch down a lot, and where low end is hugely dependent on board size and not wing size...
On one hand I agree with lightwind challenge of getting onto foil when you might need to gain speed first.
Though I recall taking out a regular size, $15 boogieboard we got for kids and riding it last June without fins or anything, just that front scoop did enough to keep it above water.
On the other hand I still believe in SUP foils ability to get up on foil immediately, and I saw 3 SoCal guys show up all with huge wings two weeks ago.
Certainly large wings are making a comeback and will be very popular. Those wings need very little speed (if any:) to get onto the wing and foil away.

Foiling is dividing fast into racing (large deck, small wings) and freeride (small deck, large wings) and we will see more freeride specific boards as we started seeing more freeride-specific wings

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Re: “pocket” foilboard

Postby Peter_Frank » Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:33 pm

grigorib wrote:
Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:35 am
Snip...

Foiling is dividing fast into racing (large deck, small wings) and freeride (small deck, large wings) and we will see more freeride specific boards as we started seeing more freeride-specific wings

True - but depends on the location I think ?

Around here in Europe and France, it all started with racing gear (medium deck, small wings), and freeride followed qute fast (small deck, medium wings).

Now there has been a trend toward both medium and big and really big wings, agree with that.

But boards has been really small before, and now they seem to get bigger, particularly combined with the bigger wings offered, as in less wind - board area is a huge benefit.

Years ago, typically a big beginner board was offered, and then a really small expert board.

Take Ketos t.ex, they started with the 107 cm pocket board (full carbon) years ago.
Then later the 118 came, as many wanted more "nose" but still pocket size.
And last year the latest 130 cm pocket board came, as with the new big wings and wave wings, it makes so much sense to go up in board size :thumb:


The 107: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... 427&type=3

Is quite big with a smaller rider: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... 506&type=3

I have had the 118 for some years, maybe 3, and now the 130 since last summer, those two fits me just fine for windy conditions (10 knots and up).


Ketos Pocket 107:

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Ketos Pocket 118:

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Ketos Pocket 130:

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For travelling purposes, or like you, loving the really short boards, the 107 or other brands even shorter could be ideal yes :rollgrin:




My own 118 and 130 with the Wave and WaveXL wings (I use a lot in this very combo):

Ketos118130.jpg
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Ketos118130c.jpg
Ketos118130d.jpg

So the 107 could be a board, eventhough you seem to want them even shorter right ?

I am on the opposite track - eventhough the bigger wings can lift in less wind, we WILL also (at my level) touch down more in this wind, thus benefit from a bit bigger boards here :naughty:
At least this is what I have found over the last 3 years, but personal likings, some want supersmall boards no matter what, also understandable.

8) PF

PS: I dont wanna sound like a Ketos AD, but these are the boards (and foils and wings) I know very well, thus easy to use as an example - assume there are others with similar sizing, Zeeko t.ex.

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Re: “pocket” foilboard

Postby grigorib » Mon Feb 05, 2018 8:01 pm

Those are some very nice boards, dude!


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