Foil wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:11 pm
Sandras wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:53 pm
Mossy 757 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:30 pm
"Learning how to surface ride" should be like the first 2 hours of your very first session. If you're posting on the internet about your difficulties learning to surface ride a hydrofoil, you don't know how to kiteboard, lol.
It took me way more than 2 hrs just to manage to position the board and to waterstart with 90% success rate.
From what I read here and what I see at the beach, this is pretty typical.
If you managed to get comfortable in surface ride in your 2nd hr with the foil, well done and good for you being talented.
But it seems that what you have in riding talent you lack in manners and kindness.
The OP is asking help while at the waterstart with a long mast!
well It took me flipping ages to learn how to surface ride, I found it so difficult just to get up on the board,
twin tip sailing for 18 years ensured I got it completely wrong on the foil for two sessions, I had to get an experienced foiler to shout out advice on the 2nd day of trying, this helped massively, then surface riding took me a very wobbly few hours to get with it. I forgot how hard this initial period was until Sandras mentioned it above, very frustrating as you think it should be easy after using a twintip for nearly 2 decades.
Ok...I can understand that if you have only ridden tt as compared to riding surfboards as I do that you might find the riding of the board ... perhaps more difficult.
It is a completely different stance and your body position memory will need more adjustment than if you only ride surfboards.
Tt riders adopt a more back foot weighted and carving stance than surfboard riders. So that immediately will cause more problems when on a foil.
If you dive the kite to launch and lean back too much against the kite like a tt you’re in trouble .
So adopt a more forward leaning body position even before you launch and stay more perpendicular with board.
But there is difference between “ riding” the board on the water and “ riding and keeping “ the board on the water.
The latter applies to learning to foil ... when up , ride and keep the board on the water as you gather pace and the foil starts to fly....don’t just ride the board on the water.
If the transition from a shorter mast feels different , it’s because it is different. I suspect the difference which Big Wally is feeling is a difference in greater weight of the mast which will feels more draggy on first attempts and he goes over the front
Adjust body position and spend some time on it and that sensation will disappear.
Cheers.