Yeah, the foil surprisingly isn't that big a deal.
I just jumped my Sonic2 11m the other day and can confirm it's totally insane. Double my next highest jump on a twintip without even trying.
Its all about fun....and fun we have. I kite all year Mr....every month of the year in Toronto as long as water is open and the temp is above freezing...hundreds of sessions and thousands of boosts. 3 trips to warm areas like cuba and hatteras a year. So don't be telling me how much I kite please. I have been part of wind sports for 35 years.PullStrings wrote: ↑Mon Jul 02, 2018 1:22 pm@ cwood it's only your 5th year kiting...which is really almost 3rd year cause you don't kite on water all year long...so your wind speed is ridiculous
You may think it's 8 knots in your kite but it's not
Toronto water is cold so with warm wind you have a gradient...sure you can measure all day long the wind from the ground but on the water the dense wind is much windier
Just common sense...laws of physics prohibit such heights with "normal" 8 knots of wind in the kite
I've landboarded in true onshore 8kn....generated speed of 24knots and never got to 10 meters...with 15...19...21 ram airs
Think more about what's going on where you kite and give details of how much wind power you estimate you had to get such height...it will near double what you are saying
(I'm in my 20th year kiting all year long minimum 15 times a month in mostly light winds)....i've seen a thing or two
Good luck
Have fun
Let's not have a pissing contest but i've been part of wind sports for 55 years kitesurfing 20 x 190 = 3800cwood wrote: ↑Mon Jul 02, 2018 11:39 pmI have been part of wind sports for 35 years.
I will agree that colder air is more dense and the performance is better in a given wind range and in Toronto we often have "doming" wind with power aloft which is just the most fun thing ever.
Today we had a beautiful 89 degree day, 8-12 knots and it was a high 30's and 40 foot day.
With respect to wind speed we base it on the myriad of sensors around us in this day and age.
oh its not a pissing contest...its a gentlemanly discussion!PullStrings wrote: ↑Tue Jul 03, 2018 12:30 amLet's not have a pissing contest but i've been part of wind sports for 55 years kitesurfing 20 x 190 = 3800cwood wrote: ↑Mon Jul 02, 2018 11:39 pmI have been part of wind sports for 35 years.
I will agree that colder air is more dense and the performance is better in a given wind range and in Toronto we often have "doming" wind with power aloft which is just the most fun thing ever.
Today we had a beautiful 89 degree day, 8-12 knots and it was a high 30's and 40 foot day.
With respect to wind speed we base it on the myriad of sensors around us in this day and age.
Your colder air density comes from your very cold water right now around 67F versus the heat wave you are having r...major formula for mega juice
Sensors don't explain the whole story about what you are experiencing on the water so you should not base the wind speed power on it
The 8-12 knots where you kited today had the power of a 16-24 knots of wind that's why you could jump high...when it's that dense the apparent wind force you create is incredible
It can all be explained....been there done that and you don't even need a ram air or foilboard
I'n glad you are having fun that's what counts....enthusiasm !!
Had myself upwelling conditions yesterday with air 86F and water temp drop of 13 degrees overnight to 73F
Side side shore very light wind but knowing my spot i knew that even if it looked dead zero whitecaps glassy ocean the session would bring me great joy
With 6 knots on the beach there was 12 knots once i launched...then 18 knots of power on the water...5 meter jumps with 17 tube...quad strapped surfboard..i killed it...fun fun
Sensors around showed 8 knots but when i reported my session to my friends i talked about that i had the depower line pulled all the way it in what felt like 18 knots...yes...surreal
I don't say that i was jumping in 8 knots of wind... that's all
100 is a ton. 65 for me.PullStrings wrote: ↑Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:19 amAgree that where you live in fresh water TT sucks and surfboard type boards too
For the foil water is water it don't care it will lift and rip no matter if lame fresh or high salt buoyancy
Hey I'll stay content with my lower heights in the waves
2 more sessions and I'll be at 100 for the year...you?
Hey Fernmanus!fernmanus wrote: ↑Tue Jul 03, 2018 1:47 amI tried foilboarding last year and I have to say it was the gear, not the learning curve that dissuaded me from continuing. Putting together a foilboard while the wind was blowing would often drive me nuts. However, boosting over 30 feet in ten knots has my attention. I have a full quiver of Flysurfer Soul Kites.
I am guessing the progression is to start with a low to mid-aspect hydrofoil and then progress to a high aspect hydrofoil to do the big boosts. I suspect I could use the same board.
I kite inland lakes and is it not uncommon to boost 20 feet high in 10 knots with a twin tip because the gusts are often in the high teens. I can only imagine the boost with a hydrofoil.