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grigorib
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Boards: Spleene RIP 37, Flysurfer Radical6 138, Flysurfer Flydoor5 XL, Slingshot/Moses/RDB 70/90/101cm masts with 1200/860/800/730/600 kitefoil or 2200/1700/1400 wingfoil wings and 310/230/425 stabilizers, Naish MicroChip 80cm, 36" Woody, Slingshot Dwarfcraft Micro 100, MBS Comp 95x

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby grigorib » Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:32 pm

Foil wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:00 am
I have found the post from frank, back in Feb 2018
....
Initially I preferred the 683, but as I found out after switching between both and also kite wings in between that was because it feels closer to the feeling I am used to. Only that my stance had to move forward quite a bit (15+cm).
...
Thanks for finding that post!
15cm difference in stance (or mast position) would probably ruin it for me. Not sure that I have that much track space on my 42" board.

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby Foil » Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:35 am

grigorib wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:32 pm
Foil wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:00 am
I have found the post from frank, back in Feb 2018
....
Initially I preferred the 683, but as I found out after switching between both and also kite wings in between that was because it feels closer to the feeling I am used to. Only that my stance had to move forward quite a bit (15+cm).
...
Thanks for finding that post!
15cm difference in stance (or mast position) would probably ruin it for me. Not sure that I have that much track space on my 42" board.
its worth remembering that when using the 633 you only need a small kite up, maybe 1 or 2mtrs less than smaller wing users, my most used kite for the 633 is my 8mtr, however if I want to swap over to my 637 race wing set I have to change my kite also, unless of course the wind has picked up and I find there far too much lift from the 633,
I don't enjoy using my large kites with the 633, I find the 10 and 12tr kites much less agile than the 633 wing, whereas the sizes of 9mtr and below are much better matched for the 633, and for the 637 race wings the 10mtr kite is superbly matched, the 12 is good for very light winds.

grigorib
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Local Beach: OBX; Clinton Lake, IL; Lake Michigan; Hood River; La Ventana; Ocean Park, PR; SPI; Tawas, MI
Gear: Kites: Slingshot Rally 5/7/9/11m, Turbine 9/13m, SST 4/5m, UFO 3/5/7/9m, Flysurfer Speed4 10m standard, Flysurfer 2cool 6m, Peter Lynn Venom II ARC 16m

Boards: Spleene RIP 37, Flysurfer Radical6 138, Flysurfer Flydoor5 XL, Slingshot/Moses/RDB 70/90/101cm masts with 1200/860/800/730/600 kitefoil or 2200/1700/1400 wingfoil wings and 310/230/425 stabilizers, Naish MicroChip 80cm, 36" Woody, Slingshot Dwarfcraft Micro 100, MBS Comp 95x

For sale: Slingshot Turbine 9/13m, 20” Guardian bar, 1700 sq.cm wing/fuselage/stabilizer fitting Moses mast
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Re: Moses 2019

Postby grigorib » Fri Dec 07, 2018 7:26 am

Foil wrote:
Fri Dec 07, 2018 3:35 am
grigorib wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:32 pm
Foil wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:00 am
I have found the post from frank, back in Feb 2018
....
Initially I preferred the 683, but as I found out after switching between both and also kite wings in between that was because it feels closer to the feeling I am used to. Only that my stance had to move forward quite a bit (15+cm).
...
Thanks for finding that post!
15cm difference in stance (or mast position) would probably ruin it for me. Not sure that I have that much track space on my 42" board.
its worth remembering that when using the 633 you only need a small kite up, maybe 1 or 2mtrs less than smaller wing users, my most used kite for the 633 is my 8mtr, however if I want to swap over to my 637 race wing set I have to change my kite also, unless of course the wind has picked up and I find there far too much lift from the 633,
I don't enjoy using my large kites with the 633, I find the 10 and 12tr kites much less agile than the 633 wing, whereas the sizes of 9mtr and below are much better matched for the 633, and for the 637 race wings the 10mtr kite is superbly matched, the 12 is good for very light winds.
I prefer not to ride anything larger than 9m at all. Large kites are slow and not as much fun. I guess there are times I need the 11m but rarely so.

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby TomW » Fri Dec 07, 2018 5:56 pm

I've had some sublime sessions on the 633 and Sonic 2, 13m in 8-10 knots. I know this is not considered light wind by many, but being able to go anywhere and do 35km/hr in 10 knots is mind-blowing. Having a blast when in the past would have been skunked.

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby ap888 » Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:40 am

Are the 2019 foils out now? or are those 2018 on there website...I’m guessing they are not out I would have seen on there social media pages... :whenitsdone:

grigorib
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Boards: Spleene RIP 37, Flysurfer Radical6 138, Flysurfer Flydoor5 XL, Slingshot/Moses/RDB 70/90/101cm masts with 1200/860/800/730/600 kitefoil or 2200/1700/1400 wingfoil wings and 310/230/425 stabilizers, Naish MicroChip 80cm, 36" Woody, Slingshot Dwarfcraft Micro 100, MBS Comp 95x

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby grigorib » Mon Dec 10, 2018 6:21 am

ap888 wrote:
Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:40 am
Are the 2019 foils out now? or are those 2018 on there website...I’m guessing they are not out I would have seen on there social media pages... :whenitsdone:
The only new wing announced is 873 and it’s out on both Instagram and in Moses website.
Another rumor I saw in the thread is 81cm mast to be announced in spring.

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby TomW » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:10 pm

What about the new race set up?

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby ap888 » Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:03 pm

Why change wing design if it’s already amazing right.... :remybussi:

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby NYKiter » Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:48 pm

They shouldnt paint everything black....as soon as the first scratch occurs...then the buffing makes things look like garbage when the black top coat comes off.....

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Re: Moses 2019

Postby ap888 » Sun Dec 16, 2018 2:54 am

Look better with clear coat or leave them raw


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