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The Pansh A15, an A18 review

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Regis-de-giens
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Re: The Pansh A15, an A18 review

Postby Regis-de-giens » Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:05 pm

I would love ... but a bit expensive for my reduced use.
I love the pulsion12m in snowkite light wind. Then I have a conceptair smart 6.5 (Open cells) ; I want one in-Between size to preserve the Pulsion 12m in high end on snow, like 15-20 knots.

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Re: The Pansh A15, an A18 review

Postby Regis-de-giens » Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:33 am

9m ordered in light cloth.
The choice for light cloth is really a luxury option in that size which is fun for a pansh kite . Reasons a multiple in my case :
- light weight rider and I almost never crash the kite
- on snow I could ride down to 7-8 knots in lulls IMO where weight starts to count
- i punctually need to climb mountains to reach the spot , so the lightest the best.
- i hate the standand colors imposed on the a15, and custom color is almost the same price as light cloth
- punctual need on HF for fun. Again potential lulls down to 7 knots IMO where lght cloth brings more fun

stefFZ
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Re: The Pansh A15, an A18 review

Postby stefFZ » Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:19 pm

Cool tu vas pouvoir venir nous parler de ça ...

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Re: The Pansh A15, an A18 review

Postby borist » Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:30 pm

I like 9m A15 the most. Did not do any mod other than shortened Z a little. It has all those negatives as larger sizes just (like slow depower) but they are less annoying in 9m. Light cloth could make it even better. Large bar helps

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Re: The Pansh A15, an A18 review

Postby Regis-de-giens » Sat Dec 02, 2017 5:50 am

I ordered the 65 cm bar , but for another kite at first sight (and hope that Pansh will actually deliver this larger bar instead of shorter proposed.
Great to hear that it is plug and play more or less. I don't expect an agility like LEI but just hope it will be enough for climing mountains. Let's test.
for info pansh sent me an email the day after my order telling me that one of the three UL color (blue) is out of stock and prooosed to.either chege the color or cancel the order which is quite great.

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Re: The Pansh A15, an A18 review

Postby oldkiter » Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:24 pm

Got the Pansh Aurora 2 in 10 m. It came ready to fly. Want to use a dedicated 4 line bar with front line safety and 22m lines instead. Like to get comments about what attachments to use to kite leaders. My bar has typical loops on outside lines and knots on front lines. Concerned about how thin and unsheathed the kite leaders are. Thanks

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Re: The Pansh A15, an A18 review

Postby Kykeon » Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:14 pm

oldkiter wrote:
Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:24 pm
Got the Pansh Aurora 2 in 10 m. It came ready to fly. Want to use a dedicated 4 line bar with front line safety and 22m lines instead. Like to get comments about what attachments to use to kite leaders. My bar has typical loops on outside lines and knots on front lines. Concerned about how thin and unsheathed the kite leaders are. Thanks
My recommendation is to either buy a set of matching pigtails and fit them at your kite.
Or buy 5-6m of 3mm dyneema and make the pigtails on your own with brummel splice and figure of eight knots.

I did the second.
These thin loops you have are not meant to either accommodate pigtails or a bar forever connected. THey will wear quickly by frequent connect/ disconect.

I'll be happy to help you more if you want to go for diy pigtails.

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Re: The Pansh A15, an A18 review

Postby oldkiter » Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:42 pm

Thanks Kykeon. Have or can handle the pigtails. What do you recommend the connection be? Should pigtails be loop to loop on kite leaders with knots on ends? Then use loops on ends of bar lines? Or ?? Thanks again.

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Re: The Pansh A15, an A18 review

Postby Kykeon » Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:33 pm

For the pigtail to non-pigtail connection I make loop to loop because I feel it's stronger (I may be wrong) and comes out more straight.

At the kite side I add pigtails in a way that I can fly it with ANY of my other bars (with regards to both pigtails length as well as connection type : loop/knot)

Same for the pigtails that I added in my (heavily modified, front line flagging) pansh bar. This bar can fly all my other kites because of the pigtails that I added.

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Re: The Pansh A15, an A18 review

Postby oldkiter » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:07 pm

Thank you again!


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