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Speed 5 21 or Soul 21

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Speed 5 21 or Soul 21

Postby Big Wally » Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:46 am

What are differences in the two kites. If I want to ride Surfboard and Foil in Ultra light wind, which one?

Thanks in advance

BW

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Re: Speed 5 21 or Soul 21

Postby Peert » Sat Jun 09, 2018 8:35 am

Big Wally wrote:
Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:46 am
What are differences in the two kites. If I want to ride Surfboard and Foil in Ultra light wind, which one?

Thanks in advance

BW
Why 21m for hydrofoil in ultralight wind.
If you get up to speed you will soon be overpowered because of apparent wind.

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Re: Speed 5 21 or Soul 21

Postby Nem0 » Sat Jun 09, 2018 12:37 pm

Because of the weight I would say SOUL!
But remember what peert said befor!
What is your weight!?
And what foil you ride?

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Re: Speed 5 21 or Soul 21

Postby Big Wally » Sat Jun 09, 2018 2:11 pm

Weight 250 lbs. Alpine XLP Foil

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Re: Speed 5 21 or Soul 21

Postby Kitemanmuc » Sat Jun 09, 2018 6:40 pm

Big Wally wrote:
Sat Jun 09, 2018 1:46 am
What are differences in the two kites. If I want to ride Surfboard and Foil in Ultra light wind, which one?

Thanks in advance

BW
Soul is a stress free foil kite. :) Super stable, floats. Amazing.

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Re: Speed 5 21 or Soul 21

Postby Adventure Logs » Sat Jun 09, 2018 7:19 pm

I would go with the Soul as well. If you are using it for Hydrofoil, you really don't need a 21m. I would say 18m if you plan on using it also with twintip and 15m if it's going to be only hydrofoil.

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Re: Speed 5 21 or Soul 21

Postby Johhnn » Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:48 am

@adventure logs He says he's 250 lbs and wants to ride in light wind. Maybe he does want the 21. I weigh 170 and have a 15 m Sonic 2 and the latest AlpineFoil with their big Lift wing. I sometimes consider getting an 18 m foil kite. Although, usually if I can get the 15 in the air I'm good to ride with decent power.

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Re: Speed 5 21 or Soul 21

Postby fernmanus » Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:37 pm

Soul if buying new, Speed 5 or Sonic 2 18m if you are looking for a good deal on a used kite.

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Re: Speed 5 21 or Soul 21

Postby Adventure Logs » Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:43 am

21 is going to be too big if he uses for HF, which is why I recommended the 18 or even 15. I'm 180ish and I can't ever see myself needing something bigger than my Soul 15m. I actually kind wished I got the 12m instead because once I'm up and foiling, I don't that much power and a smaller more agile kite is more fun.

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Re: Speed 5 21 or Soul 21

Postby pmaggie » Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:50 am

I know I'm going out of topic but… as time passes and the Soul is being used by a larger number of kiters, I have the impression that the Speeds made their time. I own a Speed 21, I ride it only with tts and I'm happy with it but it seems the Soul is far better in every department. Am I wrong?


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