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Re: short lines

Postby TomW » Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:00 pm

davesails7 wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:54 pm
Looping to get going is one thing, but if you are talking about looping through a jibe, you can go with much shorter lines. I've seen a 21m race kite looped on 15m lines not problem through a foiling jibe. When you're riding under the kite as it loops, the kite can pretty much stay in the same spot (relative to you).
Yes, get your point. Had not thought of that.

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Re: short lines

Postby Mossy 757 » Mon Aug 13, 2018 2:14 pm

Video of Daniela Moroz waterstarting in light wind with a foil kite on short lines. Notice at :27 she reaches way up to pull her steering line while leaving the bar sheeted out. Thought this was a pretty good demonstration of a very technical waterstart.

https://vimeo.com/249609864

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Re: short lines

Postby evan » Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:15 am

TomW wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:00 pm
davesails7 wrote:
Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:54 pm
Looping to get going is one thing, but if you are talking about looping through a jibe, you can go with much shorter lines. I've seen a 21m race kite looped on 15m lines not problem through a foiling jibe. When you're riding under the kite as it loops, the kite can pretty much stay in the same spot (relative to you).
Yes, get your point. Had not thought of that.
Even 11m lines on a 21 is no problem when downloop-gybing (forgot my "longer" 13m lines one day)

But looping to waterstart is of no use then, you need to loop it so tight that you don't get any power out of the loop. Stalling it into the power zone and letting the kite fly through it in a straight line is the way to go!


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