They are there and pics if you go looking.joriws wrote: videos proving that Pansh is a great kite from unboxing (like more expensive foil brands are)
Seems fine to me. How is a video going to prove that?joriws wrote: and it handles aging (bridle shrink, porosity, fabric stretch) well
Ridiculous.joriws wrote:And that Pansh does not contain poisonous chemicals.
Honestly with the tip tucking I saw from Minima videos I would say the A15 is a way more refined kite. They are quite different kites as well.joriws wrote: For example I'd be more interested in Lecca-kite video reviewed by Horst Sergio than any of the Pansh kites
The Monjet so far is vaporware. A couple of different prototypes have been videoed with completely different designs. It would seem things aren't there yet with that kite. I would be happy to be wrong though and see it released tomorrow.joriws wrote:Or Monjet kite if seeking single skin kite.
Exactly. In fact all foil kites need some tuning at some stage. Also all kite company's have quality issues, including Flysurfer.Regis-de-giens wrote: Second hand foil kites , even german ones, can offer even "worst" surprises like cloth porosity or briddle unsetting...
Sorry I do not see the point. My A15 is well past that and fine.joriws wrote:Foilholio, post a video of A15 used 50-200 hours on it
I have written more on this with flysurfers mainly in mind than any? most? Foil kites are all much the same at some point, well they are to me. Any problem has been covered.joriws wrote: how you re-tune kite against shrinkage (mixer align or something else) and breath through the fabric if you can.
I have seen 15+ year old flysurfers in near new condition. Age with foil kites it would seem is rarely a factor in wear. Use is another matter, I have seen Flysurfers ready for the bin after 3 years.joriws wrote: Speed3 used on water videos - after 10y of introduction and after 5y (or something) end of sale.
I would guess some rubber like product.joriws wrote: Chemicals - they are used for coatings (by every brand if you insist that statement). What does Pansh use?
It is stable, doesn't rub off, doesn't smell (much). I would think it is safe, just don't eat it.joriws wrote:Safe chemicals for people?
What about all the off gassing from the materials in the car? How about you just open a window.joriws wrote: Remember kites are in car sometimes in high temperature and evaporate gasses.
1. We don't "wear" kites.joriws wrote: Our Customs stop considerable amount of clothes coming from China, India and Pakistan because of the chemicals used.
Welcome to the free market.joriws wrote: I just said I'd be more interested in checking those brands
I think their reputation is fine. They are what they are. Best value you can find in the kite industry. Not the highest performance but the cheapest, and by a very large amount.joriws wrote:brand-reputation-ruined Pansh
Well they are certainly not "cheaper" than Pansh. Pansh IS the cheapest. I think you mean cheap, but maybe not that cheap if comparing to Pansh. You would be better just saying there is other brands and forget the whole cheap word. Other brands do not really compare on price to Pansh.joriws wrote: There are a lot more cheaper foil brands I'd try before buying Pansh
Living with Psycho4s and liking to tune to the edge, I too can tolerate it. That said it is better if a kite does it less or not at all. The Minima is a DIY kite vs Pansh who now has a long history of designing kites. The Minima is interesting as it strays from the normal path of kite designs. I can only support that as it offers the chance to advance kite design. I will say the A15 goes an unusual path too. The Minima is a little weird as the chosen design seems to offer as a main benefit a reduction in weight, but then such heavy cloth is used.joriws wrote: I noted tip tucking with Lecca-video but actually I don't mind tip tucking while turning.
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