Wow insane How did we get from talking about Airush's new lineup of FOIL kites to this?
bad monkey wrote:The modern foils do just fine in gusty conditions. I would argue that modern foils offer greater safety in mountain and gusty conditions because the flag out safety systems actually turns the kite into a flag. An inflatable kite maintains its rigid structure even in safety mode.
Maybe small gusts but not bigger ones thats for sure. Inverts are still very common with wicked reinflation causing a bigger concern for safety. The foils have always been set to flag upon safety activation and there still is a potential for pull even on safety seen it a million times try reeling one in on a super windy day i think it would be easier to pullin a marlin outa the sea. Yes inflatables do hold there structure thats why they don't collapse and do weird shit.
bad monkey wrote:I agree that inflatable kites work well on the snow
So your saying inflatables are snowkites too? well i guess that makes all kites snow kites then. The point i've been trying to make against the stupid marketing hype of so called snowkites that don't exist.
bad monkey wrote:I also enjoy being able to take a spare kite with me in either a smaller or larger size in case the wind changes or a kite gets damaged. They are also easier and safer to self launch and land than inflatables.
You can still do exactly the same thing with either or kite without trouble if you know what your doing if it truly is pumping that is the real problem with inflatables all give you that out in the wild, but if its anywhere near the car all bets are off.
bad monkey wrote:Certainly any kite will work on snow, but adding one or two foils to your inflatable quiver will enhance your winter kiting experience. If the budget doesn't allow for it, then by all means, go have a great time with whatever you have. If the budget will cover it, get a couple of foils and leave the pump behind, enjoy the tour and the peace of mind of true 100% depower. Snow kites do exist and they have some clear advantages over the inflatables for winter use.
So once again snowkites is a marketing tool to fool or make people think that they should buy another kite because it has snow at the begining of the word how silly.
I agree leave the pump behind and get a compressor onboard they are cheap and easy to make also you can buy an affordable kite specific compressor that will inflate to exact pressures. By the time you show up at your destination and acess the wind conditions and drink coffee the kite is on the compressor an is fully pumped up. The second both kites are laid out lining up and taking off are exactly equal neither kite is any faster to setup.
If you wanna just open the bag and hope the foil takes off with out any tangles you may or may not have a slight advantage but one tangle can leave you in the parking lot while others are out flying. Not a healthy pre-flight check.
100% depower is not even an option on any kite. 5th line inflatables are the only true 100% depower and even they are not a true 100% and a foil isn't a 100% no kite is. Just marketing once again.
Snowkites do not exist and there is no truly clear advantage of one over the other only prefrences for the rider and buyer.
erratic winds wrote:Always take CrayZ's posts with a healthy grain of salt, he's far too vocal about being anti-foil to not be on the payroll of somebody who makes inflatables
ANYBODY typing on the kiteforum with bullshit marketing bullets that came out of the brochure is to be taking with a grain of salt. I do not sell kites never have I fly em all tho. I do help when I can but I do not own a company nor do I have one single contract with any company in my possesion. I can tell you one thing the people that always defend companies with clear hype and marketing agendas are in fact on the payroll as they are dealers, distributors, or just brainwashed users that only kite in certain seasons.
Do you really think that someone is going to buy something based on what any of us say? Dealers certainly think that way as do the manufactures.
This sport is expensive new or not your a complete idiot if you take anyones suggestions on buying a $1000+ kite on a whim or by what you read in the magazines, brouchures and especially kiteforums.
Now back to AIRUSH AS THAT WAS THE THREAD.