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 Post subject: A good trainer for storm days, any suggestions ??
PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 2:44 pm 
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Hi !

I had my first session this year without an instructor with my new access 6m. It was blowing hard !! From 20 to 38 knots !! I did not use skis or snowboard but only my boots because the surface was icy with just a little bit of snow and because of that wind ! Not really recommended for a beginner ! Anyway I had a great time being dragged downwind for 500m on boots !!

I want to buy a 2m trainer kite that I could use on very very high wind days and that my friends could use to start kiting while I use my access.

I tought of the new ozone method, it seems amazing and nice design, but it is too pricy (550$)
The ozone flow 2m is nice but also very pricy (350$)

The hq rush 250 seems nice to start kiting, but I am afraid it wont handle storm like wind well...
http://cgi.ebay.ca/HQ-RUSH-III-200-2M-2 ... 43a2db9efa

There is this Best company kite:
http://cgi.ebay.ca/Kitesurfing-Trainer- ... 2c57c72084

Slingshot:
http://cgi.ebay.ca/Slingshot-2m-Trainer ... 45f0de9d00

You have to double the price for the ozone imp... Is it worthed for such kite?

Do you guys have any suggestion for a 2m trainer ? Is there any other trainer that can be hooked to a harness other than the ozone flow ? Is there a way to hook it ourself ?

Thanks !!


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 Post subject: Re: A good trainer for storm days, any suggestions ??
PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 4:00 pm 
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Regular kite stores (not kiteboarding stores) sell a rectangular small kite( about a 1.5 square meters) that come with handles, this ones are about 40 to 60 usd and all you need is change the handles to a bar. :roll:
Best trainer is large in size.
Slingshot B2 trainer is a good size and prize for high winds.


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 Post subject: Re: A good trainer for storm days, any suggestions ??
PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 4:11 pm 
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For a great option to get what you pay for... value...

2m Ozone Flow

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(with a Loop, with safet release) Like the the High End Ozones water and snow
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Also with wrist safety leash

Napsack:
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Colored Lines:
Show up on Snow and 180kg
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or
1.5m or 1.5m Imp. (Bar, Bag and Lines)

But the 4m Access is the sweetest with Depower.
I'm on it here in a storm...

Paul
www.PBKiteboarding.com

This Ozone Access 4m is the best high wind foil with the best range.
Stiffer bridals than any kites (Less tangles) 4 Pulleys mesh cover vents
and patented re-ride safety.... but if budget is too low for the best go for the Ozone Flow then Imp...



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 Post subject: Re: A good trainer for storm days, any suggestions ??
PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 6:14 pm 
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Bear in mind that small kite does not always equate to high wind kite. A true high wind kite will be built much tougher than your el cheapo trainer or recreational kite for static flying.

A small fixed bridal for traction or a small sheetable is what you need. Although the kite size you were on for a lot of people would be perfect in thos winds. Remember you were'nt on a board you were standing still. Makes it a lot harder.

Hq has a 3m Apex available and I bet it would be an awesome high wind kite. Minimal lift, small size, depower, the whole package. And relatively inexpensive compared to some others.


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 Post subject: Re: A good trainer for storm days, any suggestions ??
PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:27 pm 
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Small trainers are probably a waste of money now that small depower kites are available which you can train with and will hold up to pulling you around. I wish I had a 3m apex when I training my 11 and 12 year old boys and the neighbor kid , they get the trainer muscle memory thing in less than an hour and figured out the depower in another hour. I,ve got a 5m and 7m HQ apex ,and a variety of others, you cant go wrong with 3m depower in your quiver.


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 Post subject: Re: A good trainer for storm days, any suggestions ??
PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 11:22 pm 
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what about a 4m access?? its as fast as an angry wasp though! most 2m fixed bridles will be even faster.

in 30-40 knots anything can kick your arse and the arses of your unskilled frends. better to put them on a small kite in light winds than get them injured in a howling gale.


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 Post subject: Re: A good trainer for storm days, any suggestions ??
PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 1:06 am 
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True!!! I decided to go with a simple 100$ hq rush 250 for my friends to use in regular winds !!


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 Post subject: Re: A good trainer for storm days, any suggestions ??
PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:17 pm 
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I find the lines break very quickly when using trainer kites anything more than just flight training. if you want to use a trainer to pull you around expect to replace the lines quickly. I would have to recommend the ozones and the HQ Rush Pro which both come with beefy lines standard.


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 Post subject: Re: A good trainer for storm days, any suggestions ??
PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:34 pm 
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Hi hear that the Florida guys and RickI recommend an 11m Cabrinha for stormy days ..... :thumb:


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 Post subject: Re: A good trainer for storm days, any suggestions ??
PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 2:16 am 
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Best has the Best Trainer for the best Buck on the market!


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