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Re: Top Five Reasons why Snowkiting is better than Water Kit

Postby crabnebula » Sun Nov 09, 2014 3:21 am

1). It is easier to get up and ride in light wind
2). Unhooked tricks and handle pass kite loop mess ups do not feel like you are drowning
3). You can almost always walk back ( good for weak swimmers )
4). You can climb mountains and make record time going up them passing people who are skinning or hiking
5). My favorite? Is that board or ski, flying through powder and playing in 3-d terrain cannot be replicated in any otherboaed sport: GLIdInG!,,

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Re: Top Five Reasons why Snowkiting is better than Water Kit

Postby fernmanus » Sun Nov 09, 2014 4:08 am

What I find interesting is how many kiters have never tried snowkiting. And then they have the nerve to say why water kiting is better. That would be like a windsurfer telling a kiter why windsurfing is clearly superior. :argue:

If you haven't tried snowkiting you really can't say why one is better than the other.

I live in Utah, so we Snowkite in the mountains on powder. Here are my top 5:
1. 3D terrain - the water seems so flat (even the waves) after playing in the mountains with their endless variety of steeps, valleys, half pipes, knolls, mesas, rollers, funnels, kickers, bluffs, ledges, etc.
2. Gliding - you can fly over the the snow.
3. All day powder even a week or two after a storm
4. The quiet, the snow deadens sound, snowkiting can be so peaceful
5. The beauty & bliss - nothing is quite as beautiful as kiting in the mountains under partly cloudy skies after a fresh snowfall. Thinking about it makes me glad to be alive.

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Re: Top Five Reasons why Snowkiting is better than Water Kit

Postby bigcane » Sun Nov 09, 2014 8:09 pm

snowkiting is a fickle business but when it is on there is nothing better, Hardangervidda last winter
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Re: Top Five Reasons why Snowkiting is better than Water Kit

Postby plummet » Sun Nov 09, 2014 9:05 pm

crabnebula wrote: 5). My favorite? Is that board or ski, flying through powder and playing in 3-d terrain cannot be replicated in any otherboaed sport: GLIdInG!,,
I'm going to call that this is not entirely true. Though you cant replicate powder, you most certainly ride 3d terrain and glide (if your brave enough) with other kite sports. Namely kite buggying and kite landboarding. You can get in the grassy hills or sand dunes and ride terrain very similar to what you do snow kiting.

Obviously snowkiting takes terrain riding and gliding to a higher level. But it is possible to experience both outside snowkiting.

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Re: Top Five Reasons why Snowkiting is better than Water Kit

Postby matthepp » Mon Nov 10, 2014 3:29 am

Hey Tony I swear I'm not trying to encite riots but I am glad that people are getting stoked, about snow and water (even if it has ice chunks in it). The water guys DO have a good point about the bikini girls! Maybe we can get the NPS to commission a winter season hot tub at Bay of Chickens to help lure in sone snow bunnies...
It's good to hear that you've been working the learning curve on liquid. The summer seemed off for big wind days. Oh man I'm looking forward to some Jarosa/Snow Mesa adventures. Coming back from the desert today, Silver Pick Basin looked fluffy. Otherwise it's still lean over here.

The "Beer keeps getting colder" argument may be the best reason yet-

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Re: Top Five Reasons why Snowkiting is better than Water Kit

Postby NeWORBiT » Mon Nov 10, 2014 6:52 am

Reason #16 Wildlife, often see ptarmigan, grouse, hawks and eagles. Sometimes elk, deer, coyotes, lynx, bobcat (once). Now Matt, pretty sure those snowbunnies are extinct around here, those were Jackrabbits. You gotta check the tail!
BTW 5 of 7 days on the lake the previous week.
Hopeful this coming storm will do it for us, doesn't take much on the high grassy mesas.

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Re: Top Five Reasons why Snowkiting is better than Water Kit

Postby Starsky » Mon Nov 10, 2014 1:36 pm

plummet wrote:
crabnebula wrote: 5). My favorite? Is that board or ski, flying through powder and playing in 3-d terrain cannot be replicated in any otherboaed sport: GLIdInG!,,
I'm going to call that this is not entirely true. Though you cant replicate powder, you most certainly ride 3d terrain and glide (if your brave enough) with other kite sports. Namely kite buggying and kite landboarding. You can get in the grassy hills or sand dunes and ride terrain very similar to what you do snow kiting.

Obviously snowkiting takes terrain riding and gliding to a higher level. But it is possible to experience both outside snowkiting.

IDK, buggy? Only ever see those on dead flat sand. Have messed around with the land board and again, they suit a nice smooth grass better that what you find up in the hills.

We do most of our snow kiting around here on the lake so its all flat, but the most fun for us is finding snow covered features and erosion cliffs and whatever else we can find. I can imagine that snow kiting up in the hills could be mind blowing.... and the view!

Note on the beer thing. Its a plus right up to the point they freeze. Then its a real minus. No bigger let down than opening your beer and it won't come out!

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Re: Top Five Reasons why Snowkiting is better than Water Kit

Postby plummet » Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:43 pm

Starsky wrote:
plummet wrote:
crabnebula wrote: 5). My favorite? Is that board or ski, flying through powder and playing in 3-d terrain cannot be replicated in any otherboaed sport: GLIdInG!,,
I'm going to call that this is not entirely true. Though you cant replicate powder, you most certainly ride 3d terrain and glide (if your brave enough) with other kite sports. Namely kite buggying and kite landboarding. You can get in the grassy hills or sand dunes and ride terrain very similar to what you do snow kiting.

Obviously snowkiting takes terrain riding and gliding to a higher level. But it is possible to experience both outside snowkiting.

IDK, buggy? Only ever see those on dead flat sand. Have messed around with the land board and again, they suit a nice smooth grass better that what you find up in the hills.

We do most of our snow kiting around here on the lake so its all flat, but the most fun for us is finding snow covered features and erosion cliffs and whatever else we can find. I can imagine that snow kiting up in the hills could be mind blowing.... and the view!

Note on the beer thing. Its a plus right up to the point they freeze. Then its a real minus. No bigger let down than opening your beer and it won't come out!
Here's some pics of a recent event i went to.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/52938788@ ... 611168160/

You can see there's some interesting terrain in these dunes. Granted the terrian is not as extreme as the mountains. Our biggest dunes is about 60m. But there some interesting features in there and like snow that sand changes on a daily basis depending on the wind direction. So each time you go there it has changed with different features.

Landboarding the dunes requires rain and some specialist big wheeled landboard. But then you can blast in the dunes and hit kickers do a bit of gliding on the slope... lots of fun. Mind you i like to keep the jumping below leg/back breaking height!

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Re: Top Five Reasons why Snowkiting is better than Water Kit

Postby edt » Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:53 pm

plummet wrote: https://www.flickr.com/photos/52938788@ ... 611168160/
Sweet. Got videos?

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Re: Top Five Reasons why Snowkiting is better than Water Kit

Postby KiteCulture » Mon Nov 10, 2014 10:29 pm

I'm in the process of writing an article called 'The art of poaching' which talks about this very thing. This is the time of the year where the pending winter gets snow riders extremely excited. For me… I spend hours on google maps looking for that perfect stash. We'll spend even more time in the country going door to door asking for permission. And after a while, when you drive by that perfect location…. you just have to risk it and go for it - sneak in a short session before anyone is the wiser.

I LOVE the snow because it just has a different feel that is had to put into words. It feels like that first thrill you got when you landed your first jump - but all the time. I love the water, but the winter offers an opportunity to be creative with the terrain that you simply can't get with the water or waves.


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