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Is it design that makes 2003 kites better ?

Postby Guest » Thu May 15, 2003 9:23 am

I have a friend who is a pro sewer that said to me
to bring him my hardly used not much value ARX 19.5 kite
he will measure a new 2003 kite and redisgn my old 2001 ARX
like a 2003 kite ( Rhino2 20, BT20 , x2 20 ... )
Im not convince is it a matter of design only ?
what else ?
( 1 thing I know is the addition of struts, but what are the affect of that addition ? )

thanks,

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Postby kjorn » Thu May 15, 2003 10:32 am

Just about everything you can imagine affects the kites performance. The angle of attack, the profile shape, the LE tube size, the width of the tips, cloth, bladder weight.... etc .... etc .....

Tell your mate that what he plans would work if he measures all of the panel shapes to within 2mm and the LE tube and reshaped the ribs to match the new profile shape.

Or maybe visit http://www.zeroprestige.org/ download the plans and build one from scratch (much easier)

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Postby oli » Thu May 15, 2003 10:53 am

One of the 2003 enhancement is the rigidity race... All news high AR kites
are soooo rigid.

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Re: Is it design that makes 2003 kites better ?

Postby Peter_Frank » Thu May 15, 2003 11:36 am

Anonymous wrote:I have a friend who is a pro sewer that said to me
to bring him my hardly used not much value ARX 19.5 kite
he will measure a new 2003 kite and redisgn my old 2001 ARX
like a 2003 kite ( Rhino2 20, BT20 , x2 20 ... )
Im not convince is it a matter of design only ?
what else ?
( 1 thing I know is the addition of struts, but what are the affect of that addition ? )

thanks,
I dont understand the question ?

Of course it is the design, 100%.

Adding struts is design too.

And like stated above, every little detail of the kite is important for the total impression.

He can not make your ARX behave like a Rhino2 20 or X2 20 - as they have totally different profiles and front thickness, so all of the struts has to be replaced and resewn, and the front has to be replaced too.

It would be much easier to sew a new kite from the start...

And then you could just as well buy one !

He might be able to change some characteristics yes - but only a few of them - and it can not be changed to an X2 f.ex.

But like you say - it is not much value, so it might be worth a shot yes.
If it can get better turning capabilities (which is the one thing that might be possible to change by sewing), you have a winner :thumb:

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Postby Phil » Thu May 15, 2003 1:00 pm

Well, if your old ARX is "old", it means that the spi in the canopy has been stretched and attacked by UV rays. The mechanical caracteristics are not optimal anymore and I think it is not woth the effort to rebuilt a new kite from this basis. It is like putting the last generation processor in an APPLE II, if you know what I mean....
Good luck anyway.

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Postby nbk » Thu May 15, 2003 1:16 pm

Hi,

Thnx for the answers :
by design I mean the outline of the kite
now I uderstand its not enough .
anyway any known modification to the kite himself (canopy)
to make it more usable its almost brand new
I saw in http://www.lekite.com.au/news/news.htm
to extend the tips - what do you think ?


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