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Is something wrong with the Flysurfer Psycho?

Postby Blashy » Fri Jul 25, 2003 1:04 pm

I'm finding this kite being sold used alot, 2003 models.

Is there something amiss about this foil kite?

Is it not just like the Titan but more of an advanced rider kite?

Thanks.

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Postby Carlos_C » Fri Jul 25, 2003 1:45 pm

I think people are flogging them to buy titans......I've not seen that many for sale tho...

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Postby Blashy » Fri Jul 25, 2003 1:59 pm

4 on I windsurf and a few here, found a few others through google.

I've seen a few mention they were converting to the titan, you might be right on that.

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Postby Kitedude » Fri Jul 25, 2003 2:11 pm

there was a problem reported with the bladders, for some reason there is no valve and the bladder seems to be be split on all them. :D

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Postby Carlos_C » Fri Jul 25, 2003 2:13 pm

seem to be missing a line as well........

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Postby KiteSmurfer » Fri Jul 25, 2003 4:48 pm

i heard a load were shipped with these "vent" like holes in the leading edge......

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Postby sq225917 » Fri Jul 25, 2003 5:26 pm

i've also heard a rumour that theres something wrong with their relaunch as well, apparently they dont stay stuck in the water.

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Postby Pump me up » Sun Jul 27, 2003 6:45 am

Blash, you are right. There have been a lot of problems with the Psycho. Apart from the problems mentioned by others above, the UK Kitesurf magazine outlined other problems. You should note that a lot of the problems outlined are inherent in ALL ram air kites. It is also interesting to note that the Pyscho was trumpeted by the ram brigade at the start of 2003 as the ram air which will "dominate competitions in 2003."

Excerpts:

"This only works when the kite has good power." (Re pulling on the steering lines to bring the trailing edge down to power up the kite).

Flying the Psycho in light winds "is not a simple process and requires skill to keep the kite from asymmetrically collapsing in an upturn and it's a characteristic that remains until fully powered up. It is especially noticeable in gusty winds turning quickly and opening up with power into the back of the window."

"The Psycho's shape is relatively flat so doesn't much vertical lift when on the sides of the power window and that makes it difficult to climp up the side of the window in lighter winds. It requires line tension to get it to climb and you have to push the bar away from you to get it to hurl itself up the window when it has slowed down."

"On the other hand in strong winds what was an easy re-launch can take you on a real Nantucket sleighride and leave you a long way from your board."

"With the line handling involved you may find gloves useful."

So, in summary:
1: Despite claims by ram lovers, the kite does not work properly in light winds.
2: The Pyscho has a tendency to asymmetrically collapse.
3: The psycho has a tendency to collapse and then suddenly open in the middle of the window.
4: It takes a lot of effort to get it to climb up the side of the window and pushing the bar away
5: Downwind relaunches in high wind can lead to rapid, dangerous drags downwind, away from your board
6: To be on the safe side, you should wear gloves

The Psycho is hard to steer and has a tendency to collapse. It is incredibly dangerous in its tendency to open in the middle of the window and its tendency to hurl you downwind during relaunch. To stop line burn or amputation risks, wear gloves.

Ignore the lies. Ignore the ram air propaganda. Ram airs like the Psycho are aerodynamically inferior to inflatables and can be very dangerous. The reason there are so many ram airs on the 2nd hand market is that ram users are realising - slowly but surely- that they just aren't as good as inflatables.

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Postby Carlos_C » Sun Jul 27, 2003 8:51 am

Yawn...........

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Postby skyseer » Sun Jul 27, 2003 12:28 pm

..........zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz......... :roll:


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