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Rick your signature could be costing Cabrinha some business

Postby theflyingtinman » Wed Aug 13, 2003 2:44 am

A friend of mine who just started kitesurfing wanted to search the forum
for info about the "Access" - and every single one of your posts comes up
in the search results because of your sig ...

Promote "Ride Hard & Safer, Ten Ideas..." PRESERVE YOUR ACCESS TO RIDE "


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Postby Anomynous » Wed Aug 13, 2003 3:13 am

WTF! :o
Quick, get the lawyers!
Pedant! :roll:

Hopefully your newbie mate will at least be well informed about safety :thumb:

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Postby RickI » Wed Aug 13, 2003 3:53 am

Too funny! Anyway, if he really wants to look for post on Cabrinha Access, just put in both words and click on "search for all terms" and that is what will be brought up, not my signature line.

Still, ALL the kiteboarding manufacturers will need ACCESS (kiteboarding), to be able to move product. So why not look into both types of access?

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Re: Rick your signature could be costing Cabrinha some busin

Postby theflyingtinman » Wed Aug 13, 2003 4:35 am

Too funny! Anyway, if he really wants to look for post on Cabrinha Access, just put in both words and click on "search for all terms" and that is what will be brought up, not my signature line.
I know - I was only joking (forgot the smiley :D )

But have you noticed people rarely use the manufacturer name
when discussing a kite model.

I just posted the question direct instead ... come on someone give me an answer ;)

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Postby RickI » Wed Aug 13, 2003 1:39 pm

Hello Steve,

Yes, I would assume you would know far more about it that I would. You should have the guy look over Cabrinha's new user manual online at.:

http://www.cabrinhakites.com/html/downl ... nglish.pdf

There is quite a lot of general info on safety, setup, etc. there as well.
It is quite detailed with lots of color illustrations. We have come a LONG way from a few years ago when a few manufacturers intentionally left out user instructions out of liability concerns. Things are moving up and on, fortunately!

Steve, I have yet to make your image size reduction script work for me. It involves add "width = 640" after the .jpg and before the >. I have tried it a few times but no joy yet. What am I doing wrong? What would you do in the case of:

img]http://gallery.kiteforum.com/albums/alb ... Flys_s.jpg[/img

(I took two of the "[" to avoid having the image shown)

Thanks

<img src=http://gallery.kiteforum.com/albums/alb ... Flys_s.jpg width=240>
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Postby theflyingtinman » Wed Aug 13, 2003 5:46 pm

RickI wrote: .. You should have the guy look over Cabrinha's new user manual online at.: ...
I think he's done all that. What he's really try to get is a feeling for how other beginners perceice the kite e.g. do they quickly outgrow it and wish they'd started on a CO2? That kind of stuff you can only get on the forums.
Steve, I have yet to make your image size reduction script work for me. It involves add "width = 240" after the .jpg and before the >. I have tried it a few times but no joy yet. What am I doing wrong? What would you do in the case of:

img]http://gallery.kiteforum.com/albums/alb ... Flys_s.jpg[/img
You can't do it with BBCODE. ( the code in square brackets) but the HTML method you say you tried (putting the width=640 before the '>' in the IMG tag) seems to work for me...

e.g. In the post I write :

&ltimg src=http://gallery.kiteforum.com/albums/alb ... Flys_s.jpg width=240>

and it produces ...


<img src=http://gallery.kiteforum.com/albums/alb ... Flys_s.jpg width=240
>


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Postby WILCO » Wed Aug 13, 2003 7:08 pm

I really think he'll outgrow the acces too quick (my opinion), it's more a kite for use at schools etc.. As soon as you're learning for yourself everyhting goes much faster and I really think it would be a waste of money (resell value is zero too). With the new recon system even a beginner can take a Nitro (you must like the riding style). I learned on a Blacktip so... (learning went maybe a bit slower) but when you take a CO2, you will learn quick and you won't outgrow it...

Maybe no one buy's them so that's why you can't find anything on the forum :wink:

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Postby RickI » Thu Aug 14, 2003 1:25 pm

What is this link that involves "ACCESS", that is riding and not necessarily with the Cabrinha kite of the same name. We all want to ride and to some degree when and where we want to. All that comes at a price, some ideas along these lines appear below in English and in German, Spanish, Dutch, Italian, Japanese, Portuguese and French at the following link. A LOT of people worked on putting together and promoting these translations with the goals of improving safety and A C C E S S. It is worth a careful read.

IN SHORT, TAKE CARE OF YOUR ACCESS OR EXPECT TO HAVE IT TAKEN CARE OF FOR YOU, THAT IS POSSIBLY ENDED.

Promote "Ride Hard & Safer, Ten Ideas..." PRESERVE YOUR ACCESS TO RIDE
phpBB/viewtopic.php?topic=3881&forum=3&4

Kiteboarding is an incredible new extreme sport that is sweeping around the
World. The thrills and shear joy of flashing over the water and flinging
yourself, spinning into the sky at will is addictive! Lot of power in this
sport, it's part of the attraction and sometimes a threat as well. Riders
are slammed and injured sometimes for want of just a bit more care and
knowledge. Consider working the following ten points and other good
practices into your riding habits. They may help to keep both you and
bystanders safer and help to maintain kiteboarding access for us all to
enjoy this great sport. These guidelines have grown out of the analysis of
almost one hundred kiteboarding incidents and accidents. We are always
learning new things about safe kiteboarding in this new sport so be aware of
new techniques and updates to this list. NOTE: Even if these guidelines are
followed serious injury can still occur in kiteboarding, so be careful out
there.

1. NEVER LAUNCH OR RIDE WITHIN 200 FT. OR 60 M UPWIND OF BYSTANDERS OR HARD
OBJECTS ...land, boats, rocks, walls, buildings, powerlines, roads or
prominent vertical surfaces or steep slopes that may cause uplift. Depower
your kite as early as possible if trouble threatens. Waiting may remove the
option to do so safely. Riders have been injured and killed by ignoring
this. In kiteboarding "DISTANCE IS YOUR FRIEND" and may sometimes help to
forgive bad luck & errors in judgment.

2. AVOID STORMS & SQUALLS. CHECK WEATHER RADAR, WIND & FORECASTS & BE AWARE
OF WEATHER CONDITIONS WHILE RIDING. Storms & squalls have injured lots of
kiteboarders & are a serious threat. Actual weather may differ from
predicted conditions so stay alert. If you see squalls or storms, LAND,
remove the lines & SECURE your kite in advance of any change in wind or
temperature. Riders have been injured by reacting too late or not at all.
Avoid offshore & onshore winds.

3. TAKE ADEQUATE PRO KITEBOARDING LESSONS FROM A GOOD SCHOOL carefully build
experience in manageable conditions. Lessons cost but you should be
kiteboarding faster, easier & safer for your investment. Also you could save
your expensive gear & yourself from damage & our access to ride.

4. CAREFULLY PREFLIGHT YOUR GEAR, make sure lines are equal, in good
condition, free of tangles/snags, are properly attached & no leaks are
present. Repair gear before launching.

5. USE SAFETY GEAR ... a suitable helmet, impact vest, tested kite leash,
reliable chicken loop quick releases (QR) & fixed harness line QR, gloves &
hook knife(s). Practice mentally & physically reacting to emergency
situations, e.g. lofting & dragging, to try to reduce critical reaction
time. Test & maintain your quick releases before each use to improve
reliable performance.

6. BE CAREFUL IN & CONSIDER AVOIDING HIGHER WINDS while kiteboarding, that
is potentially winds much greater than 18 kts or 20 mph. Kite forces &
flight speeds can be much greater & conditions far less forgiving of errors
in judgment & simple bad luck & have resulted in serious injuries.

7. CONSIDER LAUNCHING UNHOOKED from your bar for rapid release & kite leash
activation if things go wrong. Consider hooking into your QR fixed harness
line only once you are near the water & your kite is well low over the water
in order to grab your board. Connect to your chicken loop offshore.

8. HAVE AN EXPERIENCED HELPER LAUNCH & LAND YOUR KITE who understands your
instructions without error. If conditions permit, it may be safer to launch
your kite near or from the water.

9. KEEP YOUR KITE LOW & NEVER BRING IT TO THE VERTICAL WHILE NEAR HARD
OBJECTS OR LAND TO TRY TO AVOID LOFTING. GET OFFSHORE WITHOUT DELAY.

10. AVOID COMPLAINTS TO KEEP KITEBOARDING FREE & AT WILL. Jump to help
kiteboarders. If you see someone doing something reckless, grab your friends
& go talk with him. We are all in this sport together so pitch in & be ready
to help to keep riders safe and to work to preserve access.


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