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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 7:40 pm 
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14m Sonic bow the biggest?

GK- my biggest kite is a 25m that i actually fly a fair amount. gap to a 14 bow is too great despite all the low end i hear about. sure its not a prob in good wind areas but w/ my size - about 250lbs and light wind summers in NE i need the zepplins.


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Thought of something !

The bottom cleat on the Sonic.
Hope it's better than other cleats that have been used for kites.

Othewise, after a while, sand etc. eat away the teeth and they didn't hold the rope !
Not good if this means your kite suddenly leaps to full power.

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Hi Rory.
I have cleats on my bars and they work well as long as you don't constantly pack them with sand. The anodized ones last quite a bit longer and large diameter ropes seam to not wear them as quickly as the small stuff. A stiff internal core in the rope makes all the difference. I use a heavy grad marlow in mine. Slingy used to use a cleat with the gray specra on their depowers.
Looking forward to the Sonic.
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clydesdale wrote:
14m Sonic bow the biggest?


GK,

Is the Sonic a Bow kite?

Looks nothing like a Crossbow.


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I don't refer to it as a 'bow' kite. I believe the proper tag would be 'SLE'...
Supported Leading Edge. It has a little more arc to it than some of the other
SLE's on the market, yet it still depowers 100%. I think that's why its so
stable and has the feel of a C kite.

I had to send the kite to Dave yesterday, with much hesitation and a
tearfull goodbye. Now I'm countin' the days...

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Given the discussion about the Crossbow I just thought I would ask:

Have there been any problems with the Sonic inverting in strong winds with the kite well sheeted out?

With the high pressures needed for flat kites has the Sonic had any issues with stitch holes elongating or tearing?

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GregW wrote:
Given the discussion about the Crossbow I just thought I would ask:

Have there been any problems with the Sonic inverting in strong winds with the kite well sheeted out?

With the high pressures needed for flat kites has the Sonic had any issues with stitch holes elongating or tearing?

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So far, no inverions. I think this could be due to the fact that the Sonic
has a little more curve to the leading edge. The day I flew it in 40mph,
there was an instant when a gust hit and I sheeted the bar out and the
leading edge bent slightly for a second. I think most of the problems
with the x-bow occur when people are flying it in wind stronger than the
recommended wind range. What happens is the rider sheets out to
compensate, and the high pressure under the LE which gives the kite lift,
gets replaced by the pressure of the apparent wind on the LE and causes
it to collapse and invert. No problems like this with the sonic.
GK


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GK wrote:
I don't refer to it as a 'bow' kite. I believe the proper tag would be 'SLE'...
Supported Leading Edge. It has a little more arc to it than some of the other SLE's on the market...GK


Part of the definition of a bow kite is the tow points are behind the center of pull. More importantly Globerider has licensed the bow patent and is paying the Royalty to Diamond White Lda.

Therefore I conclude that Technically speaking the GK Sonic is a "BOW KITE" - even if it is not as flat as a Crossbow.

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ed257 wrote:
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More importantly Globerider has licensed the bow patent and is paying the Royalty to Diamond White Lda.
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What makes you think they have licensed the Legaignoux design?


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ed257 wrote:

Part of the definition of a bow kite is the tow points are behind the center of pull.
Ed

Ed,
If the tow points are behind the center of pull, the kite would pitch up to full power all the time. Rear lines would be useless.

Can you explain your statement?


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