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My shockwave 9 review

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 2:27 pm
by pierre.d
First of all , I am intermediate and perhaps a little more than intermediate in surfing with a kite (20 years of surfing & windsurfing background before starting to kite)

I purchased the SW9 after a torch II 12, and having the two kites demoed last fall, some were saying that the low end of the SW9 is similar to a torch 14 , this was a little bit confusing for me first, but now after 2 weeks of good tradewind and some nice waveriding , I have a better opinion on the SW9 and how it can complement a classic 12 kite.

First thing, after a first fall in love of the kite (during demo) my first session was really bad, I immediately returned to the Torch and had a lot more fun on it, especially jumping & waveriding. The key problem was the bar pressure + the wind was not so strong (15-18 knots) so despite the declared low end of the SW it was really bad.

Let's say, that if you like physical work , the low end of the SW9 can possibly match the low end of the torch II 12 which is very good by the way. It is not confortable at all and pretty boring, but it can help during temporary lulls. Thus, the low end of the SW9 is similar to other 9 I tried or owned in term of confortable range.

Second try, riding with the shockwave on a small twintip is non sense for me in lower wind than 25 knots, a 9 C shape kite is more confortable in any case.

Now for the good stuff: I had fantastic sessions in 18-25 knots riding my wave directional board (162*40) , I could just surf with a kite like I never did before: if you are surfing upwind a good one you can depower the kite to almost to 0 and smack the lip really hard, no comparison with a C equivalent. If you are surfing downwind and the wind is good enough , just park the kite and do your rollers, the kite follows you downwind , it is incredible , you have no kite to worry anymore !
I can also say that the kite is very fast and can be turned of kitelooped
very quickly even fully depowered, which is very usefull in waves.

My conclusion: I will use this kite for wind > 20 knots and/or very gusty wind and only with my big board, going in lesser wind and/or with a small twintip is too much workout for me, I don't see the interest compared with an excellent kite like the Torch 2.

I bought the kite with my money, was thinking of reselling it after 2h and love it now.

As I am french, I am only allowed to have the 10kg stopper ball, I can tell that this is totally ridiculous, the 10 is totally useless, if you just leave the bar to uncross your line after a kiteloop the ball goes of and the kite falls from the sky :evil:
If somebody has an idea to get a 35 one, tell me , I am interested.

I don't have the sliding stopper problem, maybe because I have only the 10 ball yet ...

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 5:22 pm
by MissionMan
I could try get one from our local agent and ship it through, but shipping from South Africa might be a nightmare. Can't you get a mate who is going on a kiting trip to collect a couple from another one of the european retailers?

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 5:39 pm
by pierre.d
Thx for the proposal :)

I will start to put some pressure on the French distributor first, I imagine that everybody will soon start to complain like me and it is not good for him,
and then see with some other European or Naish USA.

Stupid, for a small orange plastic ball !!!

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 7:01 pm
by PAFF
pierre.d wrote:Thx for the proposal :)

I will start to put some pressure on the French distributor first, I imagine that everybody will soon start to complain like me and it is not good for him,
and then see with some other European or Naish USA.

Stupid, for a small orange plastic ball !!!
Tha ONLY reason that North/Naish/SS and others made new CL for this year, is french law.....!!

The 10kg stopper are only put in the bag, for the French...

Just so you dont get too upset, at your dealer! :thumb:

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 7:41 am
by pierre.d
Answer from Matt of Naish USA to my email:
Hey Pierre,

Just received your email as well. We will be receiving replacement stoppers and Id be happy to send a couple your way. Unfortunately we wont get them for about 3 weeks. If you can send me an email to remind me around the 5th of march (mattr@northsports.com) Ill see what I can do for you.

Thanks!

Matt
Nice support :thumb:

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:01 am
by Nico80
But I've tried in France the Slingshot Turbodiesel and the adjustable stopperball does support much more than 10 kgs? maybe because it is adjustable?
Anyway I've only tried once the Shockwave and as Pierre the first time, I found this kite horrible by its bar pressure (useless stopper) and also because it was really quite slow... but everyone seems to say that these inconvenients don't appear with stronger winds... still I would definetly go for the turbodiesel myself.
Waiting to try the other bows. javascript:emoticon(':bye:')

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:58 am
by pierre.d
Nico

Did make your try with the other Pierre I met in Marie-Galante
(wook 9-12 + raven 16 and f-one board)
He said it was in 12m and the wind was light, so the try was perhaps
not significative.

The crossbow I tested in 12 disappointed me also maybe for the same reason, I don't believe in these kites for light wind ... I have decided
to stick on C-shape for surface >= 12.

The sonic was good but to complex to trim in light wind

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:24 pm
by Tim_
The french don't allow more than 10kg stopper balls?

http://www.watersportforums.com

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:49 pm
by pierre.d
yes, a new security regulation asks that any security device
has to be activated with less than 10 kg static force

stupid regulation in France !!!

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 7:58 pm
by schiffi
who the hell is coming up with such a stupid regulation? :duh:
I still guess that the performer of this law has never been kiting or understanding the different solutions to activate a safety-release.

What do you think? Isn´t it a difference if you have to grap onehanded a release at the CL and in opposite to push the bar with both hands away???

...Surely, it is!!! a big difference.

With the force of your arms your probably able to push 20 or 30 (or more) kg (40-60 lb) easily. ...by having the advantage not loosing time while grabbing onehanded any release at CL.

If they want to do a regulation in order to prevent accidents, they should know about this sport at all and the function of the different systems and the worth of it.

conclusion: with their regulation they kill the "real safe-systems" ...stupid! :nob:

:bye: schiffi