niccc wrote:no problem,
The high end of the 17m skoop2 is approximatively for me (75Kg) 18-20knots and I start the 11.5 at 12knots, no problem, I land the 11.5 with 25-27knots. These two kites are really complement.
I would not say the kites overlap much, really.
But it would be fine to have these two only, if you had to - many here was thinking the same after having flown the different sizes !
20 knots is the high end for the 17 for me I think.
Ideal wind is 15 knots for the 17.
Ideal wind for the 11.5 is about 23 knots for me.
Upper about 28 I think.
Lower is difficult, because you can always get planing with the 11.5 - but I dont find it good untill 19 knots with the 11.5
We are talking average wind here, 7 meter height, 72kg kiter, small board....
So as you can see - the sweet spots just barely touch each other.
This means the kites overlap somewhat, and you can cover the full windrange, no doubt.
The "standard" problem is, that the 14.5 is by far the best size of all sizes - that you want to use the most (more lively than the 17, and more powered than your 11.5 often...)
So you could also go for the 14.5 and 11.5 in fact.
Many does that too here.
Or choose the 17 and 11.5 now - and if you win in the lottery one day, get the "Famous" 14.5 size !
I think the Takoon / Gaastra combo's are very alike, with differences in the kites though.
Takoon is very direct and responsive, Gaastra is more soft.
Takoon has better upper end, Gaastra slightly better low end handling.
You could say, that the Skoop has a bit of the "Airblast" inside, and the GXR has a bit of the "Rhino" inside - but only a fraction.
GXR superb low end qualities, but impossible to hold when getting too powered or too much speed.
And the Skoop2 the opposite - not as good smooth low end, but handles speed and depower better.
Its your choice - both will work, but a bit different.