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Re: Most Dangerous and aggresive locations in the SE UK

Postby ronnie » Sat Aug 09, 2014 8:34 am

So there has been one serious injury to a kitesurfer who collided with some rocks at Lancing and accidents have occurred at other places on the south coast of England is your answer?

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Re: Most Dangerous and aggresive locations in the SE UK

Postby legal_eagle » Sat Aug 09, 2014 9:11 am

ronnie wrote:So there has been one serious injury to a kitesurfer who collided with some rocks at Lancing and accidents have occurred at other places on the south coast of England is your answer?


That's essentially correct but there have been quite a number of accidents at Lancing (including a fatality) that we know about because the BKSA (and it would appear Toby) will go to extreme lengths to keep these issues out of the public domain censoring safety discussion so we never get to fully understand the circumstances or lessons that can be learned to prevent a repetition which breaks every rule of safety management.

This is because the BKSA makes the vast majority of its income from selling poor quality insurance to the masses who don't look too closely at the detail of their policy and (after they have paid themselves exorbitant salaries) they squander that in doomed legal actions that result in their having to pay huge costs.

Just look at the amount of income they received last year (huge) and ask yourself how many events they organised (very few that actually went ahead anyway) and you will start to get the picture.

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Re: Most Dangerous and aggresive locations in the SE UK

Postby BigPaul » Sat Aug 09, 2014 9:21 am

Steve. Sorry legal eagle.

For someone who believes he knows the courts you seem happy to commit slander?

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Re: Most Dangerous and aggresive locations in the SE UK

Postby longwhitecloud » Sat Aug 09, 2014 10:42 am

Hurting a 3rd party would be an issue, not people hurting themself.

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Re: Most Dangerous and aggresive locations in the SE UK

Postby ronnie » Sat Aug 09, 2014 12:55 pm

legal_eagle wrote:
ronnie wrote:So there has been one serious injury to a kitesurfer who collided with some rocks at Lancing and accidents have occurred at other places on the south coast of England is your answer?


That's essentially correct but there have been quite a number of accidents at Lancing (including a fatality) that we know about because the BKSA (and it would appear Toby) will go to extreme lengths to keep these issues out of the public domain censoring safety discussion so we never get to fully understand the circumstances or lessons that can be learned to prevent a repetition which breaks every rule of safety management.

This is because the BKSA makes the vast majority of its income from selling poor quality insurance to the masses who don't look too closely at the detail of their policy and (after they have paid themselves exorbitant salaries) they squander that in doomed legal actions that result in their having to pay huge costs.

Just look at the amount of income they received last year (huge) and ask yourself how many events they organised (very few that actually went ahead anyway) and you will start to get the picture.


That sounds confusing.

So it is essentially correct that there has been one serious (probably could be termed near fatal) accident at Lancing where a kiter injured himself. The question then is, did that happen before the meeting which you were criticising the decision making of.

I'm not clear on who the 'we' are that knows about a fatality that has been kept out of the public domain by the BKSA. So are you saying that the BKSA can keep the details of the death of someone out of the public domain?

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Re: Most Dangerous and aggresive locations in the SE UK

Postby balugh » Sun Aug 10, 2014 9:08 am

Must say that I find the original posters purpose difficult to fathom. Is he trying to warn people away from Lancing? Is he trying to improve it? Maybe these two questions are related? Is it just the frustrated venting of someone with no other outlets? The conversation seemed to morph very quickly beyond normal sledging....so should I just go kiting and forget I ever tried to understand wtf is going on in this thread....?

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Re: Most Dangerous and aggresive locations in the SE UK

Postby Toby » Sun Aug 10, 2014 10:29 am

Just go kiting and forget about that guy, not worth any more time!

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Re: Most Dangerous and aggresive locations in the SE UK

Postby Candleflame » Sun Nov 22, 2015 9:06 pm

sorry for resurrecting this thread. I learned at Lancing beach and the whole beach is pretty sandy with some stones (cant use lancing at high tide as there are groines and a pipe which become submerged) There is a massive pipe with some rocks dividing the beach though. However, people tend to set up east of the pipe and the winds are usually westerly. The water is superflat for ages so learners can kite quite far out. Really not sure how someone was able to collide with rocks there.


The real issue with Lancing beach is the fact that it is massively overcrowded in the summermonths with most people having no ideas about collision avoidance rules for sailing vessles. A lot of people either migrate a few km east to Shoreham or go west towards Goring/Preston/Rustington. Much better vibe at those places compared to Lancing too.

Windsurfers seemed to have all gone to little local beaches you won't know about unless someone shows you around.


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