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jasevinda
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 10:24 pm |
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Joined: Mon Jun 16, 2003 4:29 pm Posts: 1130 Location: South Wales, UK
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sq you are such a prick at times!
Consumer hero Narrrr!
Plonker from the north!
give up your stupid quest! Your just sounding like prick and nobody but your buddies are listening.
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GraemeF
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:16 am |
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Joined: Sun Jan 04, 2004 10:16 pm Posts: 959 Location: U.K. Kite & Accessory Distributor
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Hey, just because you and your airhead chum got shafted, doesn't mean it happens in my camp..
I really dont have anything to do with running S2AS, having a financial interest in something as a minority stakeholder and running it are entirely different things.
If I were running it, there really wouldn't be Air-rush, Flexi, Cabrinha and certainly no North Kites in the store, as it is, they are all in there, along with Naish now or so I understand..
As I said and repeat one more time. I have nothing to do with Surface to Air sports other than as listed in the information you clearly haven't disseminated that well from your naive visit to companies house.
And hey one last time.
What the fuck has it got to do with you anyway?
Your fired remember?
Dont come calling for any more references, they wont be as rosy in future...
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siuol1
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:16 pm |
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If you were in the position of your dealers, would you be happy knowing your supplier was co owner, and a competitor who offers to beat their prices?
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sq225917
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 6:50 pm |
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as a wise man much like yourself once said to me GRF, don't take it personally, it's just business...
i can't speak for andy at airhead, but i certainly didnt get shafted by best.
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Nico
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 4:51 am |
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Joined: Sun Jan 06, 2002 1:00 am Posts: 2552 Location: Mauritius, waterman since 1960
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Seems like high time for you two guys to get into the ring and sort your personal shit out, of this forum.
Nico
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Airhead
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 7:21 am |
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Joined: Wed Oct 23, 2002 1:00 am Posts: 335 Location: UK Littlehampton www.Air-head.com
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Nico wise words and nice photo.
as far as I can tell there has only been one person do any shafting and I think we know who that is dont we, I never expected an honest answer anyway.
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jasevinda
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 8:41 am |
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Joined: Mon Jun 16, 2003 4:29 pm Posts: 1130 Location: South Wales, UK
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Shafting
the only shafting is going on between 2 bitter folk
GF is on his Hols at the mo so he aint gonna respod to you miserable folk.
Surely you have better things to talk about?
Business bad? Have folk lost faith in Best? Christ the Golden Boy of the UK has left them? Where next for the brand jumper? Vind Ving Darling?
Who know's where the fuck he is gonna be next but what ever it will be will be the NEXT BEST thing.
TWATZ
you got something to say Ring the man up and talk to him about it.
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ROLAVI
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 10:41 am |
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Joined: Sun May 11, 2003 1:11 pm Posts: 124 Location: Annapolis, MD USA
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The same stuff happens here in the US. A shop owner with three brands is a dealer rep for one brand, a big shop on the east coast is a distributor for multiple brands and another shop is owned by a major distributor. There is some channel conflict but not enough to force change.
It would be beneficial for me the end-user if the everything was cleaner, but it is not and it is understandable given the size and maturity of the sport.
The strong prosper and the weak complain.
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just do it
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 12:41 pm |
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Joined: Mon Dec 29, 2003 5:26 pm Posts: 674 Location: Europe
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Being a shop and distributor isn't really a problem in itself.
I think there is only a problem when the distributor undercuts his shops which seems to be the case in the above mentioned posts.
Denying any involvement in retail when you are a distributor is a little stupid though as it makes it look like someones got something to hide.
If there is a known discounter that shops have a problem competing with and it then turns out to be the distributor who has a share in this shop then maybe the other shops should think about their involvement with stocking such a brand.
If no discounting is going on then everybody should be happy as they have a level playing field on wich to compete on.
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sq225917
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 2:11 pm |
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sven, i agree with you completely, i don't think anyone has any issues with shops that are first to stock a brand, becoming the distributor for a brand, that's entirely natural and is good for the brand and the buyers of that kit as they get someone in charge who really knows the product.
anyone who looks at what you've done with flysurfer in the uk can see it works.
a distributor buying into a shop is a different matter though.
and especially when they choose to skirt around answering simple questions about their involvement with that retailer once people begin to question the competitiveness of that dealer against other dealers who stock the distributors product.
anyway enough said.... like the saying goes, people who live in glass houses....
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