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PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:11 pm 
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and as we all know all flatkites can invert when handled incorrectly, theres no accounting for user error.

but someof them are much more prone to it, the flatter ones by and large.


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sq225917 wrote:
and as we all know all flatkites can invert when handled incorrectly, theres no accounting for user error.

but someof them are much more prone to it, the flatter ones by and large.


True....but!!


Back in the day when the Waroo was still a prototype, you never adopted such a position statement wise.

Yourself and the Best support team found it pretty convienent to jump onto the Crossbow inversion fears which were a new "flat kite" issue and turn it into the typical Best negative marketing campaign.

As long as you guys could try and put off potential Cabrinha buyers by bashing their product for potentially inverting, you were quite happy stating "Waroo's won't invert as it's not a bow kite"

Unfortunately many an unsuspecting Waroo customer has found this not true, and indeed the Waroo has a lack of upper end stability in the hands of less experienced kiters.

Unfortunaely the word twisting and negative campaigning by Best and their leadership continues as this link continues to prove. http://www.kiteforum.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2329723

This kite forum although a marketing machine for Best and clearly paid for much of the "free" advertising "interviews" is thankfully kept in check by forum users who challenge Best and their deception and try their best to maintain truth and integry for unsuspecting victims of Bests propaganda machine!


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hear hear, scott !! and if everyone is talked out, please toby close this publicity stunt! :bye:


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parlophone wrote:
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if best should lay low a while, and not do stupid marketing tricks, they would be more appriciated by other people...
right now y'all are just a bunch 'a big mouths :bye:


You guys crack me up.
This is a company that started out life being banned from a major
international kite event by the pressure from the rest of the industry,
had their vehicles trashed on the beach at kite events by their detractors,
had their paid adverts cut from kiteboarding magazines by disgruntled
retailers then had the rest of the industry threatening the magazines with
boycotts if they continued to print Best ads. And you are all getting upset
about Best using "stupid marketing tricks" !

Get some perspective!


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I guess they reaped what the sowed in the beginning.....

If they had approached the market with humility and integrty I guess things would have been different, but somehow I'm sure judging by their typically brash and arrogant style they offended many.

So I feel no sympathy for them in that regard.



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parlophone wrote:
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if best should lay low a while, and not do stupid marketing tricks, they would be more appriciated by other people...
right now y'all are just a bunch 'a big mouths :bye:


You guys crack me up.
This is a company that started out life being banned from a major
international kite event by the pressure from the rest of the industry,
had their vehicles trashed on the beach at kite events by their detractors,
had their paid adverts cut from kiteboarding magazines by disgruntled
retailers then had the rest of the industry threatening the magazines with
boycotts if they continued to print Best ads. And you are all getting upset
about Best using "stupid marketing tricks" !

Get some perspective!


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As far as marketing goes, to a relative newcomer
to the sport and a long time surfer, Gumball and Simon
are obviously not all there.
To attack the integrity of another company
is low and I will NEVER consider buying "B" grade kites again
- customer lost.


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ScottM wrote:
I guess they reaped what the sowed in the beginning...


What did Best sowed to justify such criminal behaviors... and remember if the brands and their goons have succeeded... who would have been hurt... the consumer... as the real reason for the hatred is not the forum spam... but simply Best wanted price competition instead of marketing competition...

Sad that you would justify such unethical behaviors...


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vietkiter wrote:
ScottM wrote:
I guess they reaped what the sowed in the beginning...


What did Best sowed to justify such criminal behaviors... and remember if the brands and their goons have succeeded... who would have been hurt... the consumer... as the real reason for the hatred is not the forum spam... but simply Best wanted price competition instead of marketing competition...

Sad that you would justify such unethical behaviors...


Very true Best sowed their behaviour and have continued their unethical style of doing business.

The fact that many did not wish to be part of them should not surprise anyone.

Many a consumer has suffered by the second rate products they sold in their early days.

Best don't care for the consumer, else they wouldn't attack customers on this forum like they do.

Best only wish to satisfy their own arrogance and egos.


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vietkiter wrote:

What did Best sowed to justify such criminal behaviors... and remember if the brands and their goons have succeeded... who would have been hurt... the consumer... as the real reason for the hatred is not the forum spam... but simply Best wanted price competition instead of marketing competition...



Ah VK, this is EXACTLY why so many people have a problem with Best! It's all the forum spam comming from Best employees/owners/investors that is driving so many to not like Best!

Price competition is great, and I am happy Best started to help drive prices down.... but its the attitude and tactics of their marketing machine that is creating so many enemies.....

Sorry if you can't see it, but thats just how it is........


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I guess they reaped what the sowed in the beginning.

What did Best sowed to justify such criminal behaviors... and remember if the brands and their goons have succeeded... who would have been hurt... the consumer... as the real reason for the hatred is not the forum spam... but simply Best wanted price competition instead of marketing competition...

Sad that you would justify such unethical behaviors...


Scott, please seek professional help for your deep seeded psychological issues that you’ve clearly pulled out of the closet in this thread.

Thank you

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