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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 10:53 am
by frez
So what happened to freedom of speech?

You are happy to show pornographic pictures on the forum but when some light hearted banter appears that you don't like you delete it?

Not very even handed Toby. If Kristin is going to do something which most of the world thinks is controversial then she should be a big enough girl to deal with the comments that follow. Nobody broke any laws, legal or moral, in the replies that you have deleted. If guys don't think Kristin is good looking then we have a right to say so. At the same time nobody can deny she has a great figure.

Internet censorship should not apply in this case and I think Toby you have let your personal feelings get in the way of that.

I'm not one for unbalanced criticism and I would reiterate that you do great work on this forum ; it is difficult to moderate some of the stuff that goes on here and it is appreciated.

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 1:42 pm
by rsillsley
Thanks Frez,

Personally i think she looks great in the photo - but in real life she is a bit rough...

Regardless of what she is doing for the sport in germany - in this case she has flasher her brests in a soft porn magazine for money ... For that she 1) loses some respect 2) opens herself to critisim..

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 2:25 pm
by Toby
I only act if people don't show respect. And that is what happened, so it gets deleted. You can always say what you think, but in a mannered way, and sometimes it is just better to shut up if you cannot express your opinion like a a grown up. You wouldn't want someone talk about you bad as well, only because someone does not like the way you are.

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 2:48 pm
by rsillsley
Toby - you have a strange definition of respect..

Some bird gets paid to flash her tits and i cant call her a munter BUT its fine to show pictures of half / naked people on the beach that probably do not know they have been photographed and have been stuck up on a bulletin board...

Sort your life out.

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 4:04 pm
by Toby
showing a picture does not mean disrespect. Everyone can think if they like it or not.
Putting up a comment which harms the other person means disrespect.

Sorted! :bye:

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 4:16 pm
by rsillsley

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 5:17 pm
by frez

Double standards at work here. Sorry Toby I just don't agree with your opinion. This forum is full of insults - some of it quite personal, a lot of it juvenile but mostly its recognised for what it is.

Better to leave the posts in, when no law is broken, and argue your case with them as evidence for all to see and make their minds up.

Apparently on this forum I can call George Bush a total f!c!ing idiot but not comment on kiting personalities with even a fraction of negativity. C'mon.

Toby, I've no wish to fall foul of you as a moderator. I guess I can be just as easily deleted as the posts you removed but I hope you see where we're coming from.

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:00 pm
by Toby
whenever I see insults towards someone else, I will act.
No matter who it is. There is no reason to call another kiter with shitty words or disrespect people and hurt them with what they write.
Everyone should think twice before posting and it is no problem to write an opinion without hurting someone.

I see where you are coming from, and I really hate to delete stuff and the discussions after it. If people show the respect towards others. there is no need for me to do anything!


Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:02 pm
by ronnie
Toby, whatever you removed, it should qualify for removal even if it was not about a friend of yours. Maybe it did.
I do not agree that posing in Playboy is 'Asking for it' in terms of insults.
On the positive side, if Kristin was thinking of dumping Sky Solbach because he's not as good looking or not as good a kiter as one of these guys, at least she now knows that she does not meet their standards.

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:49 pm
by Toby
as I said, friend or not doesn't matter. For all it will be the same. So if you see someone stepping over a border, please let me know.