Tom183 wrote:loeuftok wrote:tom, tom tom...
decoding Fo is not more difficult than decoding RickI...
read and think about it...
take some time to get it in, analyse it
and then only post back...
you can be saved from becoming a real PMU...
As far as safety goes, yeah, I am a fanatic - seen too many "experienced" guys doing things that seemed pretty stupid, and almost get killed in the process (some have been - read the incident database for examples of guys like Fo who thought skill alone would keep them safe and didn't). It really made me aware that every single launch we have is just
1 incident away from a ban...
As a group, kiteboarders are making the sport far more dangerous than it needs to be - and until we all try to make it safer, we're going to continue having incidents and getting banned...
A few years ago, when the numbers were a lot smaller, the incidents were isolated, the bans few, and not many riders were affected - but with more people in the sport now, and little/no improvement in safety overall, the bans are coming fast and furious. I don't want people to get hurt or killed, but I'm even more concerned that the sport itself will be banned into oblivion due to simple neglect...
If we don't do something soon, we'll end up with a handful of isolated locations where a few lucky survivors can ride, while the rest of us have to sell our gear or travel thousands of miles just to get in a couple days a year...
Tom,?
I have just about had enough of your mindless speculation.
As a self addmitted fanactic you should take a gaint fucking step back and have a careful look at what your saying, saying I remind you without any knowleged whatsoever as to what kind of kiter I am.
You just talk out of your ass, you claim I'm reckless, that I think skill along will get me bye, you seem to think I am a shore kiter, a dumb ass mofo like most of your dead guy's?! and all of this is based on what?
Nothing but your imagination, you're just an nice person as far as I can tell, a preachy little nice person with a safety fettish, and a data base.
f***-off Tom
I have seen the products of professional instruction, I pulled one out of the trees a few days ago.
For your info (add this to the data base) a professional first lesson as far as I'm told on here is comprised of a safety lecture, a rigging demo, and a hour on a weak ass little fucking trainner kite on the fucking beach.
What a dip shit stupid money grubbing piece of shit lesson that is!
Worthless, fucking worthless
Don't tell me ever again what I do, you have no idea,
I do not train anyone any more I limit myself to stopping the dumb f*** teachers aroud here from putting kites in the hands of total newbee's on my fucking beach, if they want to teach they have to get a boat and go offshore.
Do they give me a load of crap, yeah, but after five minutes they say Hmm, you got a point and go away with a clearer picture of what they should be doing instead of what they wanted to do.
Now as to your motives you see as being pure as the diven snow:
To prevent bans and insure acsess we need to stop the death
To do that you need to make a new kiter self regulated and smart.
You can only do that by letting him learn about his kite from his kite in deep water far from harm.
Ahem not by listening to a fantic with a fettish and a trainner kite on the fucking beach.
Face it Tom you don't know shit about kiting, or me, but you might learn something if you listened more and talked out of your ass less
regards
fokiten
PS. my beach is not a beginner spot, onshore strong winds, live trees in the water, stumps under the water, a cross wind point you can't make unless your exit is flawless, but dumb-ass know it all safety freak teacher types are always dragging down poor defenceless newbees with kite-nite dreams and pockets full of cash, the instructors should be shot, but no guy's like you Tom glorify them.
Guy's like me run them off
Who I ask you is more safety aware? me or them
Think it over Tom, locals know best.
cash for talk and trainner kites is a ripp-off
Are there good teaching beaches out there? I doubt it.
Are there good instructors you bet! but five dumb ones for every half ass one and the truly good ones are rare.
Safety freaks are a dime a dozen however
Think before you speak again Tom