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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2002 5:23 pm 
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I'd like to try kiting behind a mountainboard. Is there a particular board that's best for this?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2002 5:36 pm 
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I have tried a number of boards. Most of them seem to work fine. obviously the foils have advantages on land - My favorite land machine is the dirtsurfer. I own the flexideck - it works great at speed and carves just like a snowboard - very sweet. The only problem is it is like a directional so freestyle tricks are tricky

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2002 9:29 am 
Look at http://www.windscooter.com Marc out Germany has also kitescooters and they are perfect for kiting on gras (Costs 350.- Euro)


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2002 9:31 am 
Sorry!

http://www.windscooting.com

Look at the videos.

http://www.windscooting.com/videos.htm


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2002 9:48 pm 
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That thing looks pretty good. Simple yet effective. much better than a mountain board.

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I wouldn't necessarily agree. The "jury's still out" regarding 2 wheeled boards for me.

Why? I ride 4 wheeled boards now (MBS mountainboard) and even yesterday while riding the MBS with a 15m ARC in 6-15mph, the board will lose traction and have to be "shoveled" through the grass until I slow down enough to get grippage again. The kite is parked at 10 oclock. On a two-wheeled board, I can't imagine being able to hold it down in the ground to go upwind, especially in gusty conditions. Maybe in on-shore winds on the beach you can ride it, but so far, I can't see taking it out in the park unless using a smaller kite than usual.

How do you keep traction with a two-wheeled board?

Another nice thing about a 4 wheeled board is you can push it along with your feet, you don't have to carry it to the launch spot! Minor benefit, but reduces an extra trip to the car. Better to be riding, than walking...

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2002 5:41 pm 
Have you ever tried a two wheeled board? If anything, it should grip better because all of your weight is on two wheels, not distributed on four.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 07, 2002 3:56 pm 
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4 wheeled boards create more friction than 2 wheeled boards. I understand the weight distribution on two wheels as opposed to four, but that is more valid for rider-only, not rider plus kite which is much more force. When the board slides out, you have 4 tires moving laterally through the grass, as opposed to two. Plus, the kite force creates much more force than body weight, alone. Looking at a two wheeled design, the rider+kiteforce is distributed through your feet, where the moment arm is above the board and only slightly behind the tires as you edge with your heels. Very little force is being driven down. For a 4 wheeled board, two wheels are in front of the feet toward the kite, and two are heel-side. When you lean back, with the CG if front of the heel-side wheels, those wheels are driven into the ground, creating much more friction between the board and the ground.

Conversely, if you're being pulled over the board and you push with your toe-side, the 4 wheeled board gives you a larger moment arm to get board grip with the toe-side tires (like the "wider is better" pontiac commercials)

I can see great benefit from a two wheeled board for long grass, where there is too much friction from 4 wheels preventing you from riding, but I can't justify buying a board like that for one situation. It seems to me that 4 wheels work better for short grass, dirt, snow/grass, sand, soft sand, etc...

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2002 11:33 am 
hi freaks!! i prefer the one from http://www.dirtsurfer.com

these are pretty cool vehicles

or the one from outback; but they went bankrupt


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