I didn't want this to get lost after seven pages of posting. Pretty interesting info for someone who wants to kite in light winds. Here is an LEI producer basically saying that a foil will let you kite in lower wind than an LEI. Of course, he goes on to say that it won't be as much fun, but it still sounds more fun than not kiteboarding at all because the wind is too light. Keep in mind that I am the owner of LEI's and have never even tried a foil before, but this admission is news to me. I may need to get a foil for my biggest kite, just so that I can kite the maximum number of days in any given year, and keep my LEI's for the days when there is actually some wind.gumball wrote:Problem is, Armin wants to do just a straight low-wind test to see who can ride a board in as little wind as possible...
The foil will probably win the absolute low wind / being able to ride test because 26m projected area vs 17m projected area (25m Hellfish) has advantages even to the most stupid among us.
In waveriding you need to be able to generate power fast (for exempel after loosing speed while passing a 2-3m wave creast...)Cortex wrote: About waveriding I'd probably say that neither the Hellfish or the Speed are perfect for that. They are both fast (as in board-fast) kites that don't seem to have a lot of grunt. I think a kite with lower AR that sits a bit further back in the window is better suited for this. Of course the bigger sizes of both the HF and Speed will overcome this by sheer size... but in the smaller sizes I'd say
Voodoo isn't the best example to use for upwind comparison though.johnmelton wrote:I own a couple of Flysurfers, they are good kites. But, they definetely don't go upwind as well as the top LEI's and they don't have anywhere close to the depower of Windwings or the RRD Wave. Hopefully the Speed will close the gap.
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