Why did god make an imperfect world with imperfect people, did he do it on purpose or was he just practising and he's made a better one somewhere else.BillyGoat wrote:First you need to define what a christian is according to Jesus Christ.
1. A christian believes that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, born of the
2. A christian believes that Jesus Christ died for his or her sins and rose
from dead after three days . ( Jesus defeated death ).
3. A christian believes that he or she is not good enough to get into
heaven and has recieved Gods free offer of eternal life by putting
their faith and trust in Jesus Christ for their salvation when they die.
4. A christian believes that all 66 books of the bible are the infalable
inspired word of God .
5. A christian believes in heaven and hell.
Some things christians don't believe
- Being a good person is the way to get into heaven. ( Nobody is perfect )
- Other religions.
- Going to church makes you a christian. ( Does standing in a garage
make you a car ).
Yes I am a born again ( Jesus stated that you must be born again to enter the kingdom of God, John 3:3 ) Christian and I believe everything that I just wrote.
Personally I don't think a lot of the other people on this forum are going to appreciate this thread. But I just could,nt let an oppurtunity to spread the good news about how to get to heaven pass by. It amazes me how many people on this site are concerned about getting killed when kitesurfing , nothing to worry about when you know your going to heaven.
A christian kiter is one who doesn't drink, smoke or f***... if they do so then i would have just as little in common with them as a non christian who does this. I'm not a "christian" in the way that it is now viewed. Bush has reinvented the brand "christian" to resemble more of a cold blooded murderer that does satans work for him. Bush hates kitesurfing... he wants to destroy the world.. that ain't christian IMO.vietkiter wrote: Ok Blown Away, I am struggling to understand the boundary of your vision of Christian utopia... please define for me what a Christian kiter is again?
Believe me, I understand what you are trying to say... you don't want to be indentified with the lewdness that has become increasingly common in every facet of our lives... but so many people are "Christians" that I am not sure it differentiate anything between good versus evil...
a) Definition confusion... is a Crusader not a Christian?
an infidel refers to an unbeliever.. and is used in both muslim and christian terminology. At the moment it is the hip word that Jihadists love to use. Oh by the way there are many aspects of Al Qaeda which i strongly agree with. What's wrong with a Pan Islamic state?vietkiter wrote:
Is an infidel not a Christian from a jihadist's perspective?
Bush???? He's a freakin cold blooded murderer!!! He's a worse terrorist than Osama will ever be. that monster is a disgrace to the cross!!!vietkiter wrote:
Is Bush not a Christian talking about "read my lips"?
REAL Christians don't get drunk. Reasons why are all around us in society.. reasons why I don't drink AT ALL. I hate the stuff, It's ruined NZ. Our society has gone right down the toilet because of Satans blood. Yes the horrible christians brought that disgusting crap into America and Australia and destroyed the lives of the native people. It happened in NZ too with the Maoris.. they didn't drink either before the white man came. And no the Muslims don't drink either. No surprises there.. look what the stuff has done in the western world... cause of all sorts of crime and disorder and the Muslims don't what that filth coming and poisoning their own countries... i don't blame them at all. Hey i even hate money hungry westerners going to Iraq to make bulk cash... i enjoy watching them get their head cut off with a blunt rusty knife.vietkiter wrote:
b) As to practices unbecoming of Christians... isn't a ban on drinking part of being a good Muslim... in fact it was Christian liquor that ruined pagans like the Aboriginals and American Indians and corrupted Muslims and devout hollywood teen starlets... so are you ready to be an Aboriginal?
I hate those aspects of western civilisation. i like the technology and stuff like that but all the satanic stuff like alcohol, smoking etc can shove it. Jesus hates that crap and most of western society and feels much more at home with the "non christian" societies like the Native Amercian's, Maoris, and Arabs as well as people from the far east.vietkiter wrote:
c) Do you have to be a Christian to be a good decent human being with good family value? The practices that you abhor most were invented by Christians... liquor, smoking, internet porn... aka Western civilization...
This is a crackup... hopefully my other thread doesn't offend them as much. The thread was actually calling christian kiters (or to be more PC kiters that don't do the dirty deeds).. I didn't call the ones that hated it. They can start their own thread. This is by far the most popular thread i've ever started.Dan Glyaire wrote:why is everyone so bent out of shape about this? so he wants to know if theres others that believe and kite, no need to slag.
anyhow blownaway im with ya on this one,
Got to watch quotes like this. People will automatically assume youÃ¢â‚¬â„¢re judging them. Really nothing wrong with finding Christian kiters, but don't blanket others with judgment. I'm very Christian, but I'm also a Wine and Spirits expert. To bad many Christians would look down on me. Not too many people in my church know what I do for a living. Point is who if the worlds most famous wine maker (hint:JC). Where would JC hang is he was a kiter, I think in the parking lot. He hung with the people. Let others know that your a Christian, don't join them when your uncomfortable, but don't keep them at arms distance either. It's not our place to judge, if we preach then that pushes people away. How can you help others if you make them defensive?It's a call to other kiters who don't drink, smoke or do the other stuff that is now associated with kitesurfing.
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