HelldogBE wrote:flew the Beast 8 and Ripper 10 today
I found the beast a bit too light on the barpressure for me (I put my waroos at medium barpressure as I like training my muscles a little bit and I like having the feel especially for timing my jumps!)
but this can probably be set? anyways probably something I could get used too
as u see in the picture, this kite has a pretty odd shape (especially when u look at it from the control bar, as a bystander it's not so special).
I have to say it turns at least aswell as my Waroo 9 (wich is pretty known for turning well I think, if not a bit faster I never really yanked the bar to get it around ona wave so its probably faster!), the depower and power is a lot smoother (no getting the bar yanked out of your hands when a gusts hits, u don't really feel power or depower if u sheet in the bar or not. It's very strange this kite just pulls u upwind without feeling the need to edge or adjust your speed!)
u may think its a bit too softy, till u try to jump it... this kite probably has the best pop out of all bows. Even if u send it up to jump u don't feel the pull of the kite till u pop and then u go way high (without having to think about sheeting the bar in or out, u don't really get dropped like the other bows when u sheet out a bit...)
Also the glide on this kite is amazing, while the lift up may not be as high as the Ripper, the glide down surely is longer. Soft descents guaranteed!
The ripper compared to the beast is a bit more technical to fly and more wavestyle oriented, compared to the beast that is more freestyle with good qualities for wakestyle! (but definitely fast and stable enough for waveriding also!).
I found it also relies on apparent wind a lot, as there is little grunt, u really need to let her build speed up. But it could be because of the very forward pull of the kite that u don't feel the power as u don't need to edge against it. However it is more noticeable than on the Beast
-light bar pressure
-very good pop (the best I've experienced as a bow-flyer)
-flies well unhooked
-no 1- or 2-pump
-very light feel on the bar (in turns aswell in terms of feeling the power when u sheet in, this kite definitely needs apparant wind
-power through turns(; I'm not into kiteloops yet but the other guy that tried em found that there wasnt enough power in kiteloops. he wasn't used to riding bows however)
the 8m is magic and yes lift is really huge
the person who asked about the 12m... i have flown it it is porbably the most stable kitei have ever flown. when inthe senith.. there is so little movement its almost like its part of the sky.. it like its fozen.. amazn. alot more predictible than the 10 and the 8.. lift is very floaty