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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:49 pm 
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Toby wrote:
I only act if people don't show respect. And that is what happened, so it gets deleted. You can always say what you think, but in a mannered way, and sometimes it is just better to shut up if you cannot express your opinion like a a grown up. You wouldn't want someone talk about you bad as well, only because someone does not like the way you are.


Toby

you asked a question "what does munter mean"

I answered it and you deleted it.

Well, thanks.

I shall not answer a question again.


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Good job, Toby... Sometimes it is necessary to set limits...

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toby writes, "whenever I see insults towards someone else, I will act. "

Complete and utter bullshit. I have received death threats on this site that were allowed to stay up. Lots of vile crap on this site about a lot of people but I guess you wish you could get laid by K.B. so you have to protect her from any little criticism or a bit of humor? Fucking Pathetic.

toby writes, "showing a picture does not mean disrespect." Bullshit again. I'll bet there are a lot of unknowing victims on your little "sexiest kite pic" child porno thread that would disagree with you.

Your double standards and personal issues and inconsistancy totally destroy the integrity of your website. The comments posted in response to the playboy shot were not out of line and were just a bit of comedy on an otherwise boring site

I'm finished with supporting/contributing to this website. goodbye.


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surfingwithkites wrote:
toby writes, "whenever I see insults towards someone else, I will act. "

Complete and utter bullshit. I have received death threats on this site that were allowed to stay up. Lots of vile crap on this site about a lot of people but I guess you wish you could get laid by K.B. so you have to protect her from any little criticism or a bit of humor? Fucking Pathetic.

toby writes, "showing a picture does not mean disrespect." Bullshit again. I'll bet there are a lot of unknowing victims on your little "sexiest kite pic" child porno thread that would disagree with you.

Your double standards and personal issues and inconsistancy totally destroy the integrity of your website.


I have to agree with SWK here. If afflatus doesn't get his posts deleted, and people like Mulholland are even allowed to mis-quote you on purpose without consequence, then whatever you did delete from this thread (I didn't see it in time) must have been REALLY REALLY bad. I'm not saying you don't have the right to do it, but, IMHO, it does serious harm to your credibility.

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Gideon


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surfingwithkites wrote:
toby writes, "whenever I see insults towards someone else, I will act. "

Complete and utter bullshit. I have received death threats on this site that were allowed to stay up. Lots of vile crap on this site about a lot of people but I guess you wish you could get laid by K.B. so you have to protect her from any little criticism or a bit of humor? Fucking Pathetic.

toby writes, "showing a picture does not mean disrespect." Bullshit again. I'll bet there are a lot of unknowing victims on your little "sexiest kite pic" child porno thread that would disagree with you.

Your double standards and personal issues and inconsistancy totally destroy the integrity of your website. The comments posted in response to the playboy shot were not out of line and were just a bit of comedy on an otherwise boring site

I'm finished with supporting/contributing to this website. goodbye.


Surfingwithkites, I allways knew it,but now you have proved what a DICKHEAD you are !!

What's with "supporting/contributing" mean?
Surely not those threads telling everyone how they should surf and bragging about your photos?

If you didn't have a camera,you would not have any mates ! (and YOU KNOW it !)

Anyway,we have heard it all before! Goodbye :bye:

but we all know you won't go !


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I looked up the word "munter". The first, normal definitions I found were all along the lines of "bright," "cheerful," "jovial," "light hearted", etc. BUT the "urbandictionary" (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=munter ) does reveal it to be a highly derogatory word. Jeez.. that's pretty harsh.

I thought she was super in the pictures and on the video, and on the water, kite-in-hand. Good job, Kristin. Definitely a mega-kitebabe and athlete.

..and, I do support the idea that the owner of a free website has the right to enforce whatever censorship rules he/she thinks are appropriate... Granted, I'm down on censorship to begin with, but I'm also down on publishing insults and name calling. IMHO Toby's done a pretty good job of staying away from censorship. If this one hit him personally, then it's okay for him to respond with censoring. He hasn't yet exceeded his allowance of personal retorts and knee-jerk reactions. It's his web site after all.


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Windrider wrote:
...and, I do support the idea that the owner of a free website has the right to enforce whatever censorship rules he/she thinks are appropriate...


If this was the case, Toby should have stated as such... "I, Toby, was offended by the insult to my good friend, Kristin... I don't want a site that is synonymous with my name to be an outlet for insults at my friends... however, "tasteful" peep shots of naked girls do not offend me so therefore ok..."

But this was not Toby's message... he chose to justify it in a lecturing manner that we all see through as double standards... accusing and admonishing people for being "disrespectful"... his response is disrespectful to us all for putting up with insults on this site from time to time... that's the spirit of loose accetaple speech here, right?

Toby should simply have admitted that the comments offended him personally and that why he deleted them. Accept the consequences and critical comments that inevitably will come. Clearly, it's much worse to justify the action in such a weak manner.

Next will be brands wanting bad news deleted "without proof"


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vietkiter wrote:
Windrider wrote:
...and, I do support the idea that the owner of a free website has the right to enforce whatever censorship rules he/she thinks are appropriate...


If this was the case, Toby should have stated as such... "I, Toby, was offended by the insult to my good friend, Kristin... I don't want a site that is synonymous with my name to be an outlet for insults at my friends... however, "tasteful" peep shots of naked girls do not offend me so therefore ok..."

But this was not Toby's message... he chose to justify it in a lecturing manner that we all see through as double standards... accusing and admonishing people for being "disrespectful"... his response is disrespectful to us all for putting up with insults on this site from time to time... that's the spirit of loose accetaple speech here, right?

Toby should simply have admitted that the comments offended him personally and that why he deleted them. Accept the consequences and critical comments that inevitably will come. Clearly, it's much worse to justify the action in such a weak manner.

Next will be brands wanting bad news deleted "without proof"


Toby did not delete the posted "'tasteful' peep shot of naked" Kristin. He easily could have justified it because it probably is protected by copyright laws.. He is not being a hypocrite about nudity. Semi nude / nude shots are not the same thing as derogatory comments about a semi-nude / nude shot. One is art, the other is just a cruel insult. Toby has deleted some similarly cruel statements posted in the sexy pics topic about women that he, most likely, doesn't know as friends. As far as I can see, he is not being hypocritical.


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Just a minute, the phone is ringing...

No that wasn't it?

WTF is that ringing?

All I can hear is some alarm going off, ring, ring, ringing??

What the fuck is ringing??

Where's it coming from?

It's a f-en mystery to me???




Toby wrote:
whenever I see insults towards someone else, I will act.
No matter who it is. There is no reason to call another kiter with shitty words or disrespect people and hurt them with what they write.
Everyone should think twice before posting and it is no problem to write an opinion without hurting someone.

I see where you are coming from, and I really hate to delete stuff and the discussions after it. If people show the respect towards others. there is no need for me to do anything!

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Toby


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