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 Post subject: Re: Dynabar 2010 Models
PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:10 pm 
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JAYFACTORY wrote:
Laughingman wrote:
Anyone know of a store or online store in Canada that sells the Dynabar? Searched the Web for an hour and never found a thing....

PBK you really do need a redesign of your website, it is actually annoying to search for anything on there, I avoid it if I can.....

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Pete


Dear Laughingman, if you could send us suggestions about how to improve our ecommerce web site you are welcome.
Actually on http://www.jaystore.eu you have big BUY buttons on the first page who leads you direct to the buy page and in 4 steps the DYNABAR can be in your quiver. Eventually you can press the menu PRODUCTS selection and go direct to CATEGORIES and CATALOGUE section.

Kind regards.


My apologies for the confusion.
JayFactory... Your website is fine, pdkite is absolutely right, I was referring to PBK's website, he is a local retailer... well (2 hours away)....
I don't mind your website at all, one thing I would change though is the resellers scroll wheel, maybe instead of a scroll wheel, it could be a link that listed all of them by region, state, town. I did spend a bit of time following the link. Something like this ... http://www.gathsports.com/distributors.php .

If I have to buy online from overseas I will, but I would much rather buy locally. The carbon foot print to ship one of these items is probably equal to shipping 10. I wonder how many people would buy around here if they were available. We have a lot of snow kiters....

Sincerely

Pete

Saving the planet one dynabar at a time....lol


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 Post subject: Re: Dynabar 2010 Models
PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:54 pm 
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no worries jay, ended up buying another anyway,just prefer wearing my harness loose now .not taking anything away from your product, just giving others options.


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 Post subject: Re: Dynabar 2010 Models
PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:31 am 
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What factors to consider when choosing between the 10 1/2' vs 12 ' bar?


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 Post subject: Re: Dynabar 2010 Models
PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:35 pm 
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irwe wrote:
What factors to consider when choosing between the 10 1/2' vs 12 ' bar?

bump.

I'm usually use a 10" but is it worth going to 12" for the extra throw?
Is there a typical waist size that correlates to bar size?

thanks


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 Post subject: Re: Dynabar 2010 Models
PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:31 am 
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JAYFACTORY wrote:
doc wrote:
franz just loosen your harness . i did this after my dyno bar failed ,waited months for a replacement that never came so tried this after reading a post and haven't used the dyno bar since .

Dear doc, I understand you are upset about your problem that was not so big as you have written :"
think i'm going to need it ,u never did send me that screw!" meaning you have lost the screw and that you can easily find one in any sail shop.

Please send us your address and we send you the threaded pin: support@jaystore.eu


Just trying to keep it real here. It's a pity to read such a vague and (probably) trivial comment like this about a failure. I've been using a Dynabar for almost a year now, beginning with the prototype and then with the V2. I did replace the pin on the V2 shackle which was made available by Dynabar the instant they felt it was necessary (when the V3 came out). THAT is what is great about this company and their product...they test and listen to the test-riders and make the changes as they become necessary. No excuses, no dilly-dallying around.

I have much more faith in this bar than anything else I have used. I have broken at least 6 bars of various manufacturer...the top brands most people are using. Yes, I sell Dynabars...but I also only use and sell products that I know work well and are reliable.

I just put the Dynabar to the ultimate test while kiting in Ireland for the past 6 weeks. I rode 26 days of mostly over 25-30 kts up to 45 kts, gusty conditions and in big big waves, some very intense conditions. The bar shows no sign of wear or fatigue, except the little plastic roller which is designed to be replaced when it wears down, and it probably needs to be replaced soon. An extra roller is supplied with the bar because it's expected to wear. I put well over 200 hrs of use on that roller, so I'm actually pleased with it's performance life. It takes 30 seconds to replace it and the threaded pin if you want to upgrade that as well.

The fact is that this bar allows you to ride more naturally, more comfortably, and harder than with a fixed hook. Perhaps some are happy with the fixed hook and loose harness, but I like the harness to be snug and let the hook slide nice and smooth from side to side while the harness supports you as it is designed to. I'll never use a fixed hook again.

I think that this bar is the way to go and from what I have seen and experienced myself this product is great the way it is, yet they continue to improve it still. I've used all three models and like all of them equally. If you really like a loose hook and ride waves all the time the Wave model is the way to go, but I've been using the Freeride version and it works great in all conditions, and the race version feels nice too.

Kudos to Jay Factory for stepping up and making a great product.


BrockLanders wrote:
irwe wrote:
What factors to consider when choosing between the 10 1/2' vs 12 ' bar?

bump.

I'm usually use a 10" but is it worth going to 12" for the extra throw?
Is there a typical waist size that correlates to bar size?

thanks


I have a 31" waist and I use the 12" model and it fits fine. If you are really thin you might try a 10" model, but you do lose an inch of travel to either side. Even then it's so much nicer when the hook slides to the side when riding toeside or walking upwind with the kite to one side.


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 Post subject: Re: Dynabar 2010 Models
PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:24 am 
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I'm still liking mine. Been using the ProWave model for about 4 months now. Really like it a lot. I've let several people try the FreeRide version that I bought, and their responses have been interesting. It seems to be about 50-50. Makes sense... like kite designs, harness designs, board designs, etc. there are those who like something and those who don't. Excellent product, IMHO, and totally refreshing as a new component replacing an, otherwise, static piece of hardware. It does what it was designed to do very well. Just a matter of whether you like what it's designed to do.


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 Post subject: Re: Dynabar 2010 Models
PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:27 am 
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Windrider wrote:
I'm still liking mine. Been using the ProWave model for about 4 months now. Really like it a lot. I've let several people try the FreeRide version that I bought, and their responses have been interesting. It seems to be about 50-50. Makes sense... like kite designs, harness designs, board designs, etc. there are those who like something and those who don't. Excellent product, IMHO, and totally refreshing as a new component replacing an, otherwise, static piece of hardware.


Well said. Fair enough!


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 Post subject: Re: Dynabar 2010 Models
PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:34 am 
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BTW: I'm using the 12" version. I have a 32 inch waist and a 2009 Naish Balance seat harness. The folks at Jayfactory recommended I get the 12". Seems like it was good advice. Excellent combination.


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 Post subject: Re: Dynabar 2010 Models
PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 8:54 am 
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This is a real "first session" test of DYNABAR PROWAVE done by Matriciano , one of the forum's users. You can see how much easy is to jump, toe side, grab, switch feet and play with waves.



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 Post subject: Re: Dynabar 2010 Models
PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 5:14 am 
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Let me get this out of the way straight away - I am not pimping Dynabar; I am not a pro rider (by any stretch of the imagination!); I had to pay for my bar; although I am not being paid by Jay Factory for this review they did send me a complimentary pair of sunglasses on condition that I posted a review (good or bad) after my first ride...so here goes:

First off: As I've suffered severe injuries to both my knees plus a lower back disk prolapse I find riding toeside un-nerving and I never really feel that I can get into a comfortable, relaxed stance. The idea of a moving hook that would allow me to position myself without torquing my knees appealed and after a lot of thought based upon the comments offered up on this forum I plunged in with my cash to purchase a Freeride Bar to compliment the new Dakine Pyro that I'd just ordered.

Being located at the back of beyond, with no local outlets from which to purchase a new bar I went to Jay Factory direct via their on-line store - customer service was great and the bar was shipped the following day, via FedEx.

Straight out of the box the first impression was the weight - this is not a lightweight bit of kit! - hardly surprising given the amount of stainless steel bar that has gone into its construction. Obviously, the weight is not an issue once it and you are strapped into your harness, but I travel a bit and this bar will definitely add to the all up weight of the kit I have to carry.

The build quality is, however, top notch.

The bungee cord that relocates the hook to the centre is far stronger than I had imagined. It's actually quite hard to move the hook from one side to the other.

The bar, the 12" version, works well with my new harness - no issues there.

The winds here have been a bit unpredictable of late so I had to wait 3 weeks, until today, to use the bar and harness in anger for the first time.

Hooking in and out is a doddle, even with the stiffer of the two springs, as supplied, in place.

I expected the hook to move around quite a lot, an expectation fuelled by comments made about the clicking noise that can be heard as the hook slides from one side of the bar to the other. In reality I was surprised to discover that during normal riding the hook locks itself solidly in the centre and is, in all respects, just like any other fixed hook out there. Jumping was also just like any other fixed hook. Maybe this will change as the bungee gets used, but for now the hook is very solid.

So what about toeside riding? - well the conditions were not 100% - the sea was lumpy and I was a little under powered on my 09 12M Helix, but when I did ride toeside I found the experience to be a comfortable one. The bar slides under load so that I can face my body more-or-less upwind with my knees over the edge of the board with very little twisting involved. I felt a lot more secure today than I've done so for the past 4 years.

So far I'm pretty pleased with my purchase. It may be a tad heavy, but all-in-all the bar appears to deliver on it's promises. Only time will tell how it wears.

As for the glasses - as you'd expect from Italians they're pretty good looking - a bit like Sea Specs, but not quite so bulky. Bit worried about the hinge though - is that a stainless steel pin? My last pair of sunglasses, a pair of Kite Method sunglasses, fell into the drink because the hinge corroded.

Finally, the Dakine Pyro is one sweet harness.


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