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Re: weight / projected area = onepossible light wind indicator

Postby hawnsolos » Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:39 pm

someone do the 2010 f-one bandit 3 please.

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Re: weight / projected area = onepossible light wind indicator

Postby RGH » Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:10 am

The 2010 F-One Bandit III 10m weight = 3.25kg
The 2010 F-One Bandit III 13m weight = 3.85kg

I saw a post here a few weeks ago saying the F-One Bandit's were "heavy" but these weights don't support that statement.

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Re: weight / projected area = onepossible light wind indicator

Postby hawnsolos » Wed Mar 03, 2010 5:38 am

RGH wrote:The 2010 F-One Bandit III 10m weight = 3.25kg
The 2010 F-One Bandit III 13m weight = 3.85kg

I saw a post here a few weeks ago saying the F-One Bandit's were "heavy" but these weights don't support that statement.


ha thanks rich!

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Re: weight / projected area = onepossible light wind indicator

Postby herculon » Sun Mar 07, 2010 8:11 pm

new kite-data! many thanks goes to tom, holden, susan-kitemaker and RGH.

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+----------------------------+------+-------+------+------+-------+----+
| Nasawing NPW9b kitemaker4  |  6.0 |  5.6  | 0.8* | 0.410| 0.085 |    |
+----------------------------+------+-------+------+------+-------+----+
+----------------------------+------+-------+------+------+-------+----+
| Nasawing NPW9b HQ Powerk.  | 15.0 |  5.6  | 0.8* | 1.077| 0.089 |    |
+----------------------------+------+-------+------+------+-------+----+
+----------------------------+------+-------+------+------+-------+----+
| Peter Lynn Vapor 2009      | 13.4 | 11.63 | 0.87 | 2.109| 0.181 |    |
+----------------------------+------+-------+------+------+-------+----+
+----------------------------+------+-------+------+------+-------+----+
| Windart Demon              | 18.0 | 16.8  | 0.93 | 3.8  | 0.226 |    |
+----------------------------+------+-------+------+------+-------+----+
+----------------------------+------+-------+------+------+-------+----+
| Flysurfer Speed III deluxe | 12.0 | 10.2  | 0.85 | 2.5  | 0.245 |    |
+----------------------------+------+-------+------+------+-------+----+
+----------------------------+------+-------+------+------+-------+----+
| Flysurfer Psycho IV deluxe |  8.0 |  6.8  | 0.85 | 1.8  | 0.265 |    |
+----------------------------+------+-------+------+------+-------+----+
+----------------------------+------+-------+------+------+-------+----+
| PKD Century II Soulfly 2009|  2.2 |  1.87*| 0.85*| 0.57 | 0.305 |    |
+----------------------------+------+-------+------+------+-------+----+
+----------------------------+------+-------+------+------+-------+----+
| F-One Bandit III 2010      | 13.0 | 10.4* | 0.8* | 3.85 | 0.370 |    |
+----------------------------+------+-------+------+------+-------+----+
+----------------------------+------+-------+------+------+-------+----+
| F-One Bandit III 2010      | 10.0 |  8.0* | 0.8* | 3.25 | 0.406 |    |
+----------------------------+------+-------+------+------+-------+----+

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Re: weight / projected area = onepossible light wind indicator

Postby Tom183 » Tue Mar 09, 2010 5:03 pm

jakemoore wrote:C-Quad 8.5m2 1.4 kg 0.164 kg/m2
I guess the silverarrow comes close then. :)


I'm not so sure - the C-Quad is extraordinarily efficient (8.5m = FS 15m?), and 1.4kg sounds like it was weighed wet... I get more low-end out of my Flysurfers, but only when I have more sail in the air. (worth it for the depower and ease of flying)

It's not just about weight or projected area though - efficiency (lift vs drag) is also a major factor in light wind. (i.e.: an inefficient kite which weighs next to nothing will still suck.) Weight IS drag to some extent, but that is separate from the aerodynamic drag of the wing's profile. The ""ideal"" light-wind kite has very little weight per sq m projected, but must also be extremely efficient (most power per sq m projected, after deducting drag).

It's one thing to compare kites which are otherwise identical (e.g.: FS Speed3 15m regular fabric vs "Deluxe"), but if you redid this chart to include the lift/drag ratio, it might be even more interesting.

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Re: weight / projected area = onepossible light wind indicator

Postby jojoflyhigh » Mon Mar 15, 2010 6:12 pm

did someone have weight of Bandit III 8m ?

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Re: weight / projected area = onepossible light wind indicator

Postby herculon » Wed Mar 24, 2010 8:24 pm

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User rating from KL of light-wind performance, sorted in percent:

99: Yakuza 17m²
95: Yak 14
92: Yak 12
90: Yak Gt 10
87: Vampir Race 10,5
85: FS Speed² 15
80: Yak 8,6
79: Psycho4 12
78: PL Venom 16
77: PL Synergy 15
74: FS Psycho³ 13
72: FS Pulse² 10
70: Takoon Scoop² 11
60: Yak 6
40: Yak 4
38: PL Venom 8
28: Cult 3,5
18: Cult 2,5
10: IMP 1,5



+----------------------------+------+-------+------+------+-------+----+
| Ozone Yakuza 2008          | 10.0 |  8.5  | 0.85*| 1.778| 0.209 |    |
+----------------------------+------+-------+------+------+-------+----+
+----------------------------+------+-------+------+------+-------+----+
| U-Turn Butane 2006         | 11.0 |  9.35 | 0.85*| 2.100| 0.225 |    |
+----------------------------+------+-------+------+------+-------+----+

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Re: weight / projected area = onepossible light wind indicat

Postby Laughingman » Tue Aug 21, 2012 4:50 pm

Dimitri tells me his Infinity V2 is 9.3lbs or 4.22 kg
and the Aspect Ratio is 5.2

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Re: weight / projected area = onepossible light wind indicat

Postby joriws » Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:38 pm

Here are Zephyr and Dyno18m weights

Zephyr: 4.2kg
Dyno 18m: 4.4kg

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Re: weight / projected area = onepossible light wind indicat

Postby Delmar78 » Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:45 am

Slingshot Turbine 17m

2011: 4.2kg
2012: 3.7kg

Good work SS!!


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