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 Post subject: Fins...it is getting crazy!
PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 7:51 pm 
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this is really crazy!


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 Post subject: Re: Fins...it is getting crazy!
PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 8:43 pm 
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40-50 cm ? Did...anybody think how much drag these fins create ?
C mon...
Soon we will shorten our lines (very much) and we will say that we discovered a new sport, called windsurfing....


Toby, were was this....hidden board ? I' ve heard about big fins but this is....toooooo much

I am SURE that soon we will see daggerboards on the raceboards also.

If this fin thing gets huge...Why not put a board with our fin...

The question will be : what board do you use with your fin ?

Aris


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 Post subject: Re: Fins...it is getting crazy!
PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 11:29 pm 
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a new sport is emerging...name?

finkiting
finsurfing
finflying
finboarding

other ideas?

man, I remember back when I windsurfed the shizzle fins were getting super expensive, like $200 and up... x4!

But whatever floats you boat/fin/board?


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 Post subject: Re: Fins...it is getting crazy!
PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 1:28 am 
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Yes, Papa, if you don't have good fins for your race board you are wasting your time. The fins are driving the board designs and the board designs are driving the fins designs as well. Right now it is a massive evolution and we will see some amazing performance in Kite racing in the next year.

That is why Curtis of Curtis Fins, the fin guru and I are starting a new/old fin company. We will launch our new web site in the next few weeks.

Curtis Hesselgrave is the man when it comes to fin ideas for surfers, windsurfe4rs and kitesurfers.(Curtis helped Future Fins get up and running) modern Tow-in surfing legends- Laird Hamilton, Darrick Dorner, Jeff Clark, Peter Mell, Jerry Lopez, Sunny Garcia, Stretch etc. all ride his fins. Curtis designed the Future Vector Fins, etc., he makes custom fins for Rusty.... Speed windsurfers: Curtis has worked with Pascal Maka, Jimmy Lewis, Eric Beale: Windsurf course racing and slalom fins-worked a lot with Sven Rassmussen and Jim Drake of Starboard, and the likes of Dunkerbeck, Kevin and Matt Pritchard, Phil McGain, Bruce Wylie, Bruce Peterson, Ken Winner, Roberts etc; Speed kitesurfers - Rob Douglas ( Curtis, Rob Douglas and I designed and tested the second fastest speed fins for speed kiteboarding and the first kite speed fins to break the outright World Speed Record) Jamie Douglas and now kite race board fins.

Basically all of guys who run kiteboard and windsurf board companies have worked with Curtis Hesselgrave. Curtis made most of my fins for my 20 years as a professional windsurfer as well and our relationship goes back to the late 1980's. Curtis is the guy with the most experience....

Right now we are working with World Champion in Kite Course Racing, Sean Farley and female World Champ Steph Bridges and Second in the Worlds Chip Wasson as well as top kite and windsurf shaper, Mike Zajicek of Mike's Lab fame.

It's a fun time to be in the fin design game, and we look forward to making the most high performance fins available to all kiters. We are also working on a new kiteboard fin box similar the the current windsurf "Tuttle" fin box. This new box will be lighter, just as strong and will be adjustable as well.

The sport is growing in so many directions and we are challenged to keep up with the latest developments.

Keep an eye out as we will launch the new web site by the end of the month.....

www.curtisfins.com

Lots of Gebi and Curtis as well.

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 Post subject: Re: Fins...it is getting crazy!
PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 3:58 am 
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It will be interesting to see if they can cut the area down eventually, seems like they are getting too big/too many.
A windsurfer with one superlong fin, ok, but a kiteboard with 4?
Good business for you guys I guess... 8)
At some point, it will be too much drag though....


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 Post subject: Re: Fins...it is getting crazy!
PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 4:17 am 
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The longer those fins are, the more and more the back foot pressure is predominant IMO. :bad:

Is there any remedy to that which is the only thing I don't like about them :?:

DrLW


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 Post subject: Re: Fins...it is getting crazy!
PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:18 am 
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Fins are imprtant. Period.

Knowing how many, what kind and how big is ALSO important.

Why put 4 huge fins with enormous drag when you can place on your board : 1 big in the middle -back and 2 "normall" ones on the sites.
My opinion is that you dont need 4 huge fins.

You need 4 or 3 good fins that will make your board work better not make it slower and create problems to your back foot...

To ride/race with so big fins you will need :

1)Perfect physicall condition. (Hulk)
2) Much wider board (that means slower)
3) To accept that you WILL be slower, but maybe you will go a bit better upwind.
4) Accept that you will ride a board that feels like a door (with big keys on it)
5) Accept that your board starts to look like a windsurf board from back 1980 with canga kok fins (or something like that)

and the question is : Is it worth ?


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 Post subject: Re: Fins...it is getting crazy!
PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:26 am 
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big fins = small penis = even smaller balls (otherwise they would ride freestyle comps)


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 Post subject: Re: Fins...it is getting crazy!
PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 2:10 pm 
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well, the fins are a bit smaller, it is just the fin cover that is so big! But, you never know...


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 Post subject: Re: Fins...it is getting crazy!
PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 2:48 pm 
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I didn't believe that photo - assumed it was photoshopped.
At the moment, I'm just aiming for a lower limit of 10 knots, to use a normal Xbow and a big waveboard with race fins.
I'm waiting for the kites to catch up on the boards before considering race gear.
The 2010 North LTD is a good price for a quad racer, so I hope that will be the going rate for production boards, otherwise they will only be bought by serious racers.


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