weight / projected area = onepossible light wind indicator

hawnsolos · **Joined:** Sun Jan 03, 2010 4:57 pm **Posts:** 25

someone do the 2010 f-one bandit 3 please.

RGH · **Posted:** Wed Mar 03, 2010 3:10 am

The 2010 F-One Bandit III 10m weight = 3.25kg
The 2010 F-One Bandit III 13m weight = 3.85kg

I saw a post here a few weeks ago saying the F-One Bandit's were "heavy" but these weights don't support that statement.

hawnsolos · **Joined:** Sun Jan 03, 2010 4:57 pm **Posts:** 25

RGH wrote:

The 2010 F-One Bandit III 10m weight = 3.25kg
The 2010 F-One Bandit III 13m weight = 3.85kg

I saw a post here a few weeks ago saying the F-One Bandit's were "heavy" but these weights don't support that statement.

ha thanks rich!

herculon · **Joined:** Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:32 pm **Posts:** 115

new kite-data! many thanks goes to tom, holden, susan-kitemaker and RGH.

Code:

+----------------------------+------+-------+------+------+-------+----+
| Nasawing NPW9b kitemaker4  |  6.0 |  5.6  | 0.8* | 0.410| 0.085 |    |
+----------------------------+------+-------+------+------+-------+----+
+----------------------------+------+-------+------+------+-------+----+
| Nasawing NPW9b HQ Powerk.  | 15.0 |  5.6  | 0.8* | 1.077| 0.089 |    |
+----------------------------+------+-------+------+------+-------+----+
+----------------------------+------+-------+------+------+-------+----+
| Peter Lynn Vapor 2009      | 13.4 | 11.63 | 0.87 | 2.109| 0.181 |    |
+----------------------------+------+-------+------+------+-------+----+
+----------------------------+------+-------+------+------+-------+----+
| Windart Demon              | 18.0 | 16.8  | 0.93 | 3.8  | 0.226 |    |
+----------------------------+------+-------+------+------+-------+----+
+----------------------------+------+-------+------+------+-------+----+
| Flysurfer Speed III deluxe | 12.0 | 10.2  | 0.85 | 2.5  | 0.245 |    |
+----------------------------+------+-------+------+------+-------+----+
+----------------------------+------+-------+------+------+-------+----+
| Flysurfer Psycho IV deluxe |  8.0 |  6.8  | 0.85 | 1.8  | 0.265 |    |
+----------------------------+------+-------+------+------+-------+----+
+----------------------------+------+-------+------+------+-------+----+
| PKD Century II Soulfly 2009|  2.2 |  1.87*| 0.85*| 0.57 | 0.305 |    |
+----------------------------+------+-------+------+------+-------+----+
+----------------------------+------+-------+------+------+-------+----+
| F-One Bandit III 2010      | 13.0 | 10.4* | 0.8* | 3.85 | 0.370 |    |
+----------------------------+------+-------+------+------+-------+----+
+----------------------------+------+-------+------+------+-------+----+
| F-One Bandit III 2010      | 10.0 |  8.0* | 0.8* | 3.25 | 0.406 |    |
+----------------------------+------+-------+------+------+-------+----+

Tom183 · **Posted:** Tue Mar 09, 2010 5:03 pm

jakemoore wrote:

C-Quad 8.5m2 1.4 kg 0.164 kg/m2
I guess the silverarrow comes close then.

I'm not so sure - the C-Quad is extraordinarily efficient (8.5m = FS 15m?), and 1.4kg sounds like it was weighed wet... I get more low-end out of my Flysurfers, but only when I have more sail in the air. (worth it for the depower and ease of flying)

It's not just about weight or projected area though - efficiency (lift vs drag) is also a major factor in light wind. (i.e.: an inefficient kite which weighs next to nothing will still suck.) Weight IS drag to some extent, but that is separate from the aerodynamic drag of the wing's profile. The ""ideal"" light-wind kite has very little weight per sq m projected, but must also be extremely efficient (most power per sq m projected, after deducting drag).

It's one thing to compare kites which are otherwise identical (e.g.: FS Speed3 15m regular fabric vs "Deluxe"), but if you redid this chart to include the lift/drag ratio, it might be even more interesting.

jojoflyhigh · **Joined:** Fri Jan 13, 2006 10:00 am **Posts:** 1

did someone have weight of Bandit III 8m ?

herculon · **Joined:** Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:32 pm **Posts:** 115

Code:

User rating from KL of light-wind performance, sorted in percent:

Yakuza 17m²
Yak 14
Yak 12
Yak Gt 10
Vampir Race 10,5
FS Speed² 15
Yak 8,6
Psycho4 12
PL Venom 16
PL Synergy 15
FS Psycho³ 13
FS Pulse² 10
Takoon Scoop² 11
Yak 6
Yak 4
PL Venom 8
Cult 3,5
Cult 2,5
IMP 1,5



+----------------------------+------+-------+------+------+-------+----+
| Ozone Yakuza 2008          | 10.0 |  8.5  | 0.85*| 1.778| 0.209 |    |
+----------------------------+------+-------+------+------+-------+----+
+----------------------------+------+-------+------+------+-------+----+
| U-Turn Butane 2006         | 11.0 |  9.35 | 0.85*| 2.100| 0.225 |    |
+----------------------------+------+-------+------+------+-------+----+

Laughingman · **Posted:** Tue Aug 21, 2012 4:50 pm

Dimitri tells me his Infinity V2 is 9.3lbs or 4.22 kg
and the Aspect Ratio is 5.2

joriws · **Joined:** Wed Nov 24, 2010 11:03 am **Posts:** 121

Here are Zephyr and Dyno18m weights

Zephyr: 4.2kg
Dyno 18m: 4.4kg

Delmar78 · **Joined:** Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:57 pm **Posts:** 46

Slingshot Turbine 17m

2011: 4.2kg
2012: 3.7kg

Good work SS!!

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