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Re: A Twintip that can keep up with Directionals

Postby ronnie » Wed May 12, 2010 9:05 am

Gunnar,
The twin racer may benefit from the rotating footstraps in this video.


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Re: A Twintip that can keep up with Directionals

Postby gmb13 » Wed May 12, 2010 9:47 am

Not so 100% sure about it. I will need to get my hands on the system to try it.

It will definitely be something good for Directionals I think.

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Re: A Twintip that can keep up with Directionals

Postby d0uglass » Fri May 14, 2010 4:24 am

How is the racedoor sailed?- Is the big center fin retractable like the centerboard in a small sailboat?

Also, regarding ease of use, wouldn't the flat rocker of the racedoor make it catch chop worse than a directional? The only flat door style board I've ridden is a litewave wing, and that definitely has some chop snagging and spray-in-your-face issues in non-smooth water.

I think that worries about kite entanglement would be a bigger factor for me not wanting to race than worries about jibing and tacking a directional.

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Re: A Twintip that can keep up with Directionals

Postby gmb13 » Fri May 14, 2010 9:18 pm

d0uglass wrote:How is the racedoor sailed?- Is the big center fin retractable like the centerboard in a small sailboat?

Also, regarding ease of use, wouldn't the flat rocker of the racedoor make it catch chop worse than a directional? The only flat door style board I've ridden is a litewave wing, and that definitely has some chop snagging and spray-in-your-face issues in non-smooth water.

I think that worries about kite entanglement would be a bigger factor for me not wanting to race than worries about jibing and tacking a directional.


The Race twin has a big center fin that is retractable and more rocker than the normal doors.

The whole tangling thing is not that big of an issue, it does not really happen all too much.

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Re: A Twintip that can keep up with Directionals

Postby Europ2 » Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:56 pm

One year after the creation of the post, I was wondering if the race Twin Tip concept was mature enough to think about a production for 2011.... :o

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Re: A Twintip that can keep up with Directionals

Postby tautologies » Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:00 am

I think it might make sense for people that wants to get into this, but don't like the idea of the tack...having seen how some of the better riders tack the boards, it would seem to me that they do it faster and with more speed than a TT ever could.
That said, I think it really nice that people are giving this a shot.

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Re: A Twintip that can keep up with Directionals

Postby DrLightWind » Wed Nov 03, 2010 1:08 pm

tautologies wrote:I think it might make sense for people that wants to get into this
I think it really nice that people are giving this a shot.
I agree :thumb:

By this time originally planned to be out for production,
So is there any more info on it for recent up-date :?:

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Re: A Twintip that can keep up with Directionals

Postby pouch » Wed Nov 03, 2010 1:20 pm

Flysurfer will release soon the "Fly Race"
check this link to see some picture a the race TT

http://kite-unit.com/?p=970

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Re: A Twintip that can keep up with Directionals

Postby Europ2 » Fri Nov 05, 2010 6:25 pm

Merci POUCH :wink:
Nice pics ! A board close to production status then ...

I've never seen footpads with such a thickness under the toes (nearly 5cm or 2") :o :o :o
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Interesting symetrical "dagger board" profile (Half flat ellipse) :o :o

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The first 7-fin Twin Tip in the world (to be ridden flat) :o :o
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Re: A Twintip that can keep up with Directionals

Postby tomatkins » Fri Nov 05, 2010 8:39 pm

Does that concept of a "dagger board" really work?

From my 4 year experience riding a Flydoor, even the little fins don't need to be used....I always rode my door without fins, so that the board would be a "low drag
board...and basically the whole edge of the board was used as the "fin". It went upwind better without the drag from even the little fins. The little fins only helped to regain control on landing jumps, and helped a little on the turns.

It looks like "riding the board flat" would only increase the drag, since now you have not only the little fins in the water but also the dagger board.

I assume that you only lower the "dagger board" and "ride the board flat" to get upwind, and then you would pull up the dagger board, and ride it "not flat", but normal for the rest of the course.

The dagger board must really work well to get the kiter upwind, or I'm assuming that you would not put up with it.


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