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 Post subject: Kite vs. Moth vs. 49er
PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 6:49 pm 
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so who do you think wins? We had 5 races...and the winner was dominant

information for you to make your decision

Athletes
49er - Alex Bishop & Valen Smith
Moth - Brad Funk
Kites - Damien Leroy, Kent Marinkovic & Garry Menk

Conditions
12-16 knots, shifty and gusty. Flat water.

Course
Windward-Leewards. First leg was about 1/3 mile.

full reports coming soon...


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 Post subject: Re: Kite vs. Moth vs. 49er
PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 7:40 pm 
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sick idea. cant wait to see full video.
i reckon in those wind speeds the 49er will get it wit up down course?
only just though from kite, would be tight i think between moth and kite if a triangle?
we will see


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 Post subject: Re: Kite vs. Moth vs. 49er
PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 8:02 pm 
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Killer! I want to say the kiters won, but "the winner was dominant" throws me off since I'd think Kent and Garry would hang with Damien.

I'm going to throw my bet up on the Moth. I'm guess it had a better angle with similar speed, and didn't lose enough ground downwind to be passed by the faster kiters?


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 Post subject: Re: Kite vs. Moth vs. 49er
PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:00 pm 
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I'm with Pasty, the 49ers fly upwind and will be able to get straight down the run in this much wind, where the kiter will have to put a few gybes in..


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 Post subject: Re: Kite vs. Moth vs. 49er
PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:49 pm 
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The 49er could go 180 deg dead down wind but I don't think there is a wind speed that the polar diagram for a 49er has 180 as best angle.


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 Post subject: Re: Kite vs. Moth vs. 49er
PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 4:27 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Kite vs. Moth vs. 49er
PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 6:15 am 
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the guy that spent <$4000 and can get big air and can set up and pack his gear in <10 minutes and put it in the trunk (or bike) wins every time in my book.

First of all these conditions are the sweet spot for the Moth and 49er. For pure speed though the guy on the moth regularly trains in my backyard and in 10 to 15 knots is really tough to beat especially on a reach he pumps that sail like a crazy mofo, gusty conditions can help competition if he goes off the foils in the lulls. Under 10 knots 49 will kick ass those things are flying around in that crap all day long around here. Over 20 knots kite is king and if there is any significant chop or waves it won't be so close.

Anyway I'm sure this marketing clip wouldn't be posted if the Cab kite didn't dominate :-?

I would have liked to have been there just to get a 25 foot aerial view of the competition :jump:


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 Post subject: Re: Kite vs. Moth vs. 49er
PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 2:36 pm 
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Sorry to get off topic but how big is the Miami area 49er fleet? 49er is the only olympic class that isn't lame.


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 Post subject: Re: Kite vs. Moth vs. 49er
PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 4:54 pm 
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I don't know the size of the local fleet since i only know a few people that race them locally but there are at least 20 boats that come to train and race in Key Biscayne for the Rolex OCR in January.


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 Post subject: Re: Kite vs. Moth vs. 49er
PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 5:47 am 
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the full version is gonna be killer...stay tuned

good debate going on over at SA

http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/index. ... 16315&st=0


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