ok. the KSA is an independent body it is run by sam marks. i am going to help run the KSA in asia while sam works on affiliating the different clubs and organizations who are already doing a great job around the world. while my school is affiliated with KBA i will not be the rep for thailand and the job for quality rep in thailand is open for now.
i had a meeting with sam a few days ago and we discussed
setting up the association
registering a business name
registering website names
international licencing system
seeking funding for launching the KSA
any further meetings and out comes i hope to publish on the kitesafeassociation.com website
i will put some more responses to your questions and statements below
chasinthewind wrote:IKO bullshit as usual, i even stopped reading that post half way through as its the usual crap they do................lets ignore that and not make this another IKO bashing thread, there are so many on here that its boring! We all know what the inevitable will be with these clowns!
in reply to the OP thread -
you have messed yourself up from the beginning!
PLEASE DONT CONDEM ME FROM THE BEGINNING. GIVE ME A YEAR IF YOU ARE UNHAPPY WITH WHAT I AM DOING I GIVE YOU MY WORD I WILL QUIT. THIS IS MY PROMISE TO YOU.
The fact that you work for KBA, have associated this KSA with KBA and are more than likely fronting this for them will be a sure sign that this will never work. (and when it fails its you that gets the brunt of the backlash.......not them)
IF THIS FAILS I WILL DESERVE WHAT EVER I GET. I AM 100 PERCENT COMITTED TO THIS PROJECT. MY COMPANY MAGNUMBOARDS.COM IS EVEN FRONTING 5000USD FOR THE START UP CASH. HERE IS MY PRIVATE PHONE NUMBER +66851349588 IN ONE YEAR YOU CAN CALL ME AND VENT YOUR ANGER IF YOU BELIEVE I HAVE FAILED YOU OR KITEBOARDING IN GENERAL.
KBA have been putting Asian based schools out of business for years now, most of them run by actual Asian locals who have lived on those beaches most of their life.........i believe if you hadn't have joined them the same would probably have happened to you.
I AM NOT LOOKING AT PUTTING ANYONE OUT OF BUSINESS AND SAM MARKS THE KSA FOUNDER NOT KBA
Now that it is clear that Eran from KBA is involved, just try and get any of the Kiteschools (that are not run by KBA) to give you their money......fat chance! I doubt it very much that the only interest from KBA is advertising on your site, you said "we" had a meeting to discuss the KSA, who was that "We"? Transparency should be on all levels not only financially.
ANYTHING YOU WANT TO KNOW I WILL TELL YOU, ANYTHING I CAN NOT ANSWER I WILL DIRECT TO SAM AND HE WILL ANSWER.
Try asking the schools on Mui Ne beach to give a KBA driven venture their money, i suppose the railroading of the local schools and the undercutting of distributors through parrallel importing of brands would ensure you get laughed if not kicked off the beach.
THIS IS NOT KBA DRIVEN. IN TIME YOU WILL SEE THIS IS NOT A VENTURE BUT AN EFFORT TO FUTURE KITEBOARDING FOR EVERYONE
you have made a lot of very brave promises in your multiple posts on the new venture you guys are creating, i hope for your sake you follow them through or there will be a few red faces in the end...........promising publishing of your accounts online unfortunately isn't enough, it doesn't take much to list a few figures and publish them, how can that be backed up?
COME VISIT MY OFFICE IN PATTAYA THAILAND AND YOU CAN SEE ANY SUPPORTING DOCCUMENTS YOU REQUIRE. INFACT I INVITE ANYONE HERE TO COME VISIT MY OFFICE AND MEET ME OR SAM PERSONALLY AT ANY TIME\. WE CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AND WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT.
How about the inspections on other schools, the training of instructors and examinations they have to go through, who will front that?
I HAVE APPROACHED SOME MAJOR KITE BRANDS FOR SPONSORSHIP TO HELP COVER SOME COSTS. THE CLUB FEE OF 200 EUROS PER YEAR WILL PARTLY COVER THIS AS WELL. WITH IN ASIA I WILL PERSONALLY MEET EVERY SCHOOL OWNER OR MANAGER AT THE START OF EVERY SEASON TO PRESENT THEM THEIR SCHOOL KIT. SAM WILL ARRANGE OTHER REGIONAL REPS TO VISIT SCHOOLS WITHIN THEIR AREAS.
What gives you enough knowledge and credibility to walk into another persons school and tell them what is wrong or right?
TO BE PART OF THE KSA EVERY SCHOOL WILL NEED TO SIGN A DOCCUMENT TO SAY THEY WILL ADHERE TO THE MINIMUM SAFETY REQUIREMENTS. I WILL SIMPLY DO WHAT I CAN TO SEE THESE REQUIREMENTS ARE BEING MET. THIS IS IMPORTANT DOWN THE ROAD TO TRY TO GET SCHOOLS INSURANCE COVER AND STOP BEACHES FROM BEING BANNED FOR KITING
do you have extensive knowledge in this field? are you aware of the local regulations imposed by local governments that affect how each location manages their schools and teach their lessons?
IT WILL BE THE LOCAL REPS JOB TO LOOK INTO THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT REGULATIONS AND BUILD THEM INTO THE MINIMUM SAFETY REQUIREMENTS WHICH THE REGIONAL REP WILL THEN TRY TRY TO MAKE SURE THE INDIVIDUAL SCHOOLS ARE FOLLOWING.
have you had adequate training and qualifications to examine the future instructors of Asia?
I SURE DONT BUT I KNOW SEVERAL EXCELLENT CURRENT EXAMINERS FROM ANOTHER ORGANIZATION WHO ARE KEEN TO HELP OUT IN THAT DEPARTMENT. GUESS WHICH ORGANIZATION.
good luck with all that!
THANKS FOR YOU POST. I HOPE THIS ANSWERES SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS. WHEN THE WEBSITE IS LAUNCHED IN A FEW DAYS IT IT SHOULD GO ALONG WAY TOWARD ANSWERING THE REST. PLEASE DO NOT CONDEM THIS ORGANISATION BEFORE IT STARTS. JUST GIVE US A ONE YEAR TRIAL. THEN PLEASE DESTROY US ON THIS FORUM IF YOU ARE UN HAPPY.