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 Post subject: Re: Ahem-Adult-Kiteboarding locations
PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 11:13 pm 
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kitenaked wrote:
It is funny. I dont disagree with anything you wrote. But I feel sorry for those that stick around with the fat and ugly ones...who knows maybe we are missing somthing....I dont think so.
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Dude, if you don't feel you are missing out on something, then you are not missing out on anything! Do not get tempted to come to the other side! It is too much fun...

If you are happy and have a great relationship with a great woman then you have got it made!

Nothing better than that! 


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 Post subject: Re: Ahem-Adult-Kiteboarding locations
PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 2:39 am 
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Seriously! Best post ever! I am a man and believe it's a man world. Take lots of women, when you meet one that makes you wanna not be with any others then stop. Simple! Don't judge or make others feed bad about what they do, particularly if they aren't hurting anyone. Some people forget that just as many girls do it too. Both in and out of relationships.


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 Post subject: Re: Ahem-Adult-Kiteboarding locations
PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 5:52 am 
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DonkeyD wrote:
FredBGG wrote:
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Are you saying that you are looking for paid sex... prostitution?

Do you have any idea of the violence, suffering, disease and death involved in prostitution.... even where it is legal?

I'm not a moralizing conservative at all, but the reality is terrible.



And you know of this "reality" directly?



Yes, as well as helping rape victims and drug addicts.

You can kid yourself all you want. Because they do this out of desperation and poverty they very skillfully hide the face so as not to put of people like you that exploit them.


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 Post subject: Re: Ahem-Adult-Kiteboarding locations
PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 6:05 am 
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FredBGG wrote:
Yes, as well as helping rape victims and drug addicts.

You can kid yourself all you want. Because they do this out of desperation and poverty they very skillfully hide the face so as not to put of people like you that exploit them.


( I see you have abandoned the sex worker=automatic HIV death sentence argument)

Yes, of course by definition women in the sex business MUST BE victims in general... and rape victims and drug addicts as well. :duh:

And what do you suppose these "victims" should do to somehow relieve their poverty and desparation?

I know it does not sound pleasant to a wealthy professional in the United States but tell
me why a woman with no other skills living a poverty stricken life can't make HER choice to be a sex worker?

The pay is at least 10x better than an average worker in the equivilant of a restaurant worker, cleaner, PSW (ie: wiping people's asses) or similar. IAnd that is IF they can get a job in the first place. Why can't a good looking woman trade on her looks and sexuality? Not everyone can be a professor, lawyer, accountant etc. Someone has to provide them with the sex that their uptight opportunistic and materialistic wives have been trained to withhold in exchange for sex. :kiss:

Not everything is theoretically utopian in this world. Communism sounds good on paper... until you introduce human nature.

But go on tilting at windmills. I have NO guilt in seeing the specific women I've seen in the specific circumstances I see them.

(I am waiting for the Bibles to come out anytime!)



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 Post subject: Re: Ahem-Adult-Kiteboarding locations
PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:43 am 
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DonkeyD wrote:
FredBGG wrote:
Yes, as well as helping rape victims and drug addicts.

You can kid yourself all you want. Because they do this out of desperation and poverty they very skillfully hide the fact so as not to put of people like you that exploit them.


( I see you have abandoned the sex worker=automatic HIV death sentence argument)



I never made that argument.

My point is you are so selfishly horny that you just can't see the social and emotional side of it.
I guess that's not to be expected from someone with the sexual maturity of a 12 year old jerking off... only difference is you have slightly deeper pockets.

Sooner or later a pimp, brother or father will get pissed off and you may end up blowing your own
severed dick.


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 Post subject: Re: Ahem-Adult-Kiteboarding locations
PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 2:49 pm 
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Have you ever considered that the woman that you are paying to have sex with may have been forced into the sex trade when she was 10-14? It is pretty niave of you to honestly believe that you aren't part of the problem and to honestly think that you slapping down a few dollars makes things better. Your statement about that you pay more for that person to have sex with you than I would for them to clean for me shows the lower respect that you have for them! I realize that you are making a comparsion but if you look at it from a moral point of view (and yes you do have some morals) the person cleaning is doing something that isn't explioting themselves for your carnal needs.

James

Toby I honestly am shocked that you have the gull to state that this man is brave about posting this when he has created a new account to hide behind. We are all given to opinion but your statement is probably the worst that I have read!!!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Ahem-Adult-Kiteboarding locations
PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 3:30 pm 
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Toby wrote:
let the guy have his fun! Don't be jealous about his life...sounds like many are ;-)

Enjoy DD, wishing you winds and lots of fun! :thumb:

Did you visit the brothel on your travel abroad too?come out the closet & tell the true Toby,don't be shy, sound like you did also.Just watch out for your weenie careful for STD,or your wildest offspring enjoyments can turn to nightmare,man.
Any female view on this matter (sex travel)? Chicken Tikka ,you travel a lot,too...what do you think?come forward please.


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 Post subject: Re: Ahem-Adult-Kiteboarding locations
PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 4:15 pm 
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Location: Kite Naked - Shinn & Wainman Hawaii
HAHAHAHAHA


This is now getting entertaining for sure!



BE respectful and BE safe. Anything goes after that..


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 Post subject: Re: Ahem-Adult-Kiteboarding locations
PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 4:18 pm 
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DonkeyD wrote:

( I see you have abandoned the sex worker=automatic HIV death sentence argument)



FredBGG wrote:
I never made that argument.



Sorry, my mistake! I obviously misinterpreted the implications and argument you seemed to advance in your previous post.


FredBGG wrote:
Venereal diseases and Aids in Brazil is 6x US rate, but that's nationally. Tourist areas... well you can triple that..

Do you really think that someone prepared to roll in the hay with a near stranger doesn't do it
a bit too much with a bunch of other strangers?

Condom protection...... don't rely on it.

Likely hood of infection increases with exhaustion form physical activity such as a damn good day kiting.



I also took at face value another one of your posts. Again, my bad!

FredBGG wrote:
I'm not a moralizing conservative at all...


:nono:



FredBGG wrote:

My point is you are so selfishly horny that you just can't see the social and emotional side of it.
I guess that's not to be expected from someone with the sexual maturity of a 12 year old jerking off... only difference is you have slightly deeper pockets.

Sooner or later a pimp, brother or father will get pissed off and you may end up blowing your own
severed dick.


Well you are one helluva Actor! :winner2:


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 Post subject: Re: Ahem-Adult-Kiteboarding locations
PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 5:02 pm 
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soul19 wrote:
Have you ever considered that the woman that you are paying to have sex with may have been forced into the sex trade when she was 10-14?

It is pretty niave of you to honestly believe that you aren't part of the problem and to honestly think that you slapping down a few dollars makes things better.


No, I've never considered that.... thank you for raising the issue. I was not aware of this. I must have missed that episode of Dateline. (BTW, how is Chris Hansen, the Moral Crusader doing with the ladies himself lately?

http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/scandal_costs_him_anchor_job_V6gTQAAldNBXdGdHl4pQNL

So, it would not be possible for a woman sex worker to have made the choice to earn a living providing sexual services without having been forced into it? Should I consider that all have been forced into it? Are ages 10-14 the prime ages for this to happen?

I hear that there are some women who continue to be be "victims" of sex work well into their 40's. I know of some who have made this choice of being victimized as late as their 30's and 40's also. I know of some who have decided at age 18-25 that their lives in their second world countries are so desperately poverty stricken that there is simple NO work available for them to find employment at ANY wage, that they found their decision to go into sex work to be life changing for both themselves and their families they support.

Yes, those damn pimp families living large in their Rio shanty towns!


soul19 wrote:
Your statement about that you pay more for that person to have sex with you than I would for them to clean for me shows the lower respect that you have for them!

I realize that you are making a comparsion but if you look at it from a moral point of view (and yes you do have some morals) the person cleaning is doing something that isn't explioting themselves for your carnal needs.


I know, I know.... hiring maids to do things we are too lazy to do ourselves like cleaning our toilets is much more respectful. Especially at the wages we accord them. And unlike sex work with their pimps, maids and dishwashers are always awarded their full measure of the fruits of their hard labour. The rich restaurant, hotel and employment agency owners are in no way taking a disproportionate share of the money paid by the (enabling) customers!

As I first world kiteboarder (known for their lavish spending on food and accomodations) there is little doubt that you and others like Fred leave hundreds of dollars of tips for the toilet cleaners as I leave locally for the girls I take for dinner, to the beach and so forth. I know my money is dirty but I hope that the fact that I leave some there that it might do some good some how.


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Toby I honestly am shocked that you have the gull to state that this man is brave about posting this when he has created a new account to hide behind. We are all given to opinion but your statement is probably the worst that I have read!!!!!



Never mind that he commented, I'm surprised that Toby even left this thread up! No doubt that soon enough there will be some sanctimonius North American poster who will organize a boycott and pressure advertisers to pull ads etc.

And ironically, those who wail the loudest are usually the hypocrits who get caught with their pants down!

Methinks though protesteth too much - Shakespeare

Elliot Spitzer made the same arguments as you guys, used his powerful position as the Attorney General and Governor of New York to prosecute prostitutes, yet was a notorious "John" himself.

I don't believe there was anything wrong with his seeing her, but the outrageous duplicity and hypocrisy is as stellar an example of the ultimate Douche Bag as there will ever be!


I have met his "victim" Ashley Dupree in another situation. She said the worst victimization was being outed as a prostitute. NOT the sex work itself. She said it was HER choice and she made a good living off it and was going to use the money to get ahead.


Anyone remember any of these h[url]ttp://www.badmouth.net/top-five-republican-gay-sex-scandals/
[/url]


Mark Foley
U.S. Representative
(September 28, 2006)

The Crime: Sending sexually laced, gramatically challenged instant messages and e-mails to teenaged boys in the Congressional page program for more than 10 years.

The Hypocrisy: Chairman of the House Caucus on Missing and Exploited Children. One of the foremost opponents of child pornography in the Senate.


and

Larry Craig
U.S. Senator

Senate Liason for Mitt Romney’s Presidential Campaign
(June 11, 2007)

The Crime: Soliciting sex from an undercover cop in an airport bathroom

The Hypocrisy: Craig twice voted against adding the words “sexual orientation” to the federal hate crimes law. Craig also voted to give states the right to refuse to recognize gay marriage–a right they already had, but the Senator wanted to really, really prove he didn’t like gay people.

The Quote: “I am not gay, I don’t do these kinds of things.”


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