Dimitri,

all I'd like to see is an extra mini 5th line included with the bar. Mine is pretty worn out from sheeting the bar in and out but I flipped it around and got some more life out of it.

Ok will try to see what we can do to make your wish come true. But flipping the "Mini 5th" line around is a great idea. Thank you.

Here you go guys, now we have a T-shirt for every EPIC kite model except the TUTOR & JUNIOR PRO 4.

I could have done with a Junior Pro here today, instead I took out the 6m Renegade with 15m lines with surfboard in well overhead point break surf....WOW

Dimitri said there was no turning back once you try and he was correct.

Think I will be sticking to 15m lines from now on, can't believe you get 15m & 22m lines with these kites.

Dimitri. I haven't seen any talk or new pics of the bar? Is it staying the same for 3G/2012?

Aslo Dimitri, i can add, can you tell us what the difference between the Renegade 13LTD and the Renegade 13 3G. It's the same Kite ? The 13LTD should be ready soon , but what about the 3G 13M.

Spec 13 LTD versus 13 3G ??

Thk .. Stef

Yes I love using 15 meter lines on the RENEGADE kites in the Ocean. This is why I decided to add a set of 15 meter lines with every RENEGADE 5/7/9/11/13 kite.
These pictures bellow are of today in the ocean on the RENEGADE 11 with the REEF 5'11" surf board.

I don't get it....??? Why won't you talk about the new Renegade 13m? Does it suck or something? Is it the best thing since Jessica Alba and your keeping it a secret...? I'm confused. I've asked you in the past through email and once in this thread with no answer. Usually you won't stop talking about one of your new model kites.

What profile does the 13 have? Is it designed like the Infinity or like the rest of the Renegade models? Anything else you can tell us? Wind range? Anything???

Please?!?!?!?

I am sorry "Dj A-Ron", I was busy taking care of some customers about their orders.
Now let me see if I can answer your questions about the "3G" BAR and also about the difference between the RENEGADE 13 LTD and the RENEGADE 13 "3G".
Well concerning the "3G" BAR. The bar will be the same then the 2011 with the same color the only think that will change will be the CL and also 2 ring set up for your leash attachment. One will be so you can kill your kite by flagging it and the other system will be so you can use it as a depower like we have it now.
Now concerning the RENEGADE 13. They are both "3G". The only difference is that the RENEGADE 13 LTD won't have any graphics. It will be black/with some white and yellow. Then the other RENEGADE 13 will have the wave graphic that you see now on all the "3G" Renegades.
They are both identical except one has graphics and the other one doesn't. The Renegade 13 is the mini of the INFINITY.


P.S.
The big question is: Do you want graphics on the RENEGADE 13 or you want to keep it simple like we have on the RENEGADE 13 LTD?

Darn,
I was hoping you were going to say the 13m Renegade was the big brother of the 11m since I really love that 11m.