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 Post subject: Re: How safe do you think gliding off big hills with a kite
PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:13 pm 
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Going uphill with a paraglider isn't easy. You must have the perfect wind force...

There are some pics of Armin/Flysurfer Skycarver on the net.
Very similar to a paraglider, no lines, surface from 19 to 23 on different protos, 2 attachments points, paraglider harness, 3 or 4 pulleys depower system and rock solid stability.

Can't wait to play with this amazing toy !

Pics : http://paraglidingforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=41948


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 Post subject: Re: How safe do you think gliding off big hills with a kite
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:50 am 
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webhiker wrote:
What a bunch of chops. Why not just man up and BUY yourself a paraglider?
Or do you kiteboard with a paraglider?

I paraglide and fly a speed wing but it's fun to climb a hill turn around at the top and fly down with your kite. The best thing is you get to turn around and do it again without having to pack up your wing. It's not for everybody! Do you snowkite?


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 Post subject: Re: How safe do you think gliding off big hills with a kite
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:56 am 
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It´s never going to be supersafe with a kite, but that´s kind of the trill isn´t it ;)
And neither i megalooping or handlepasses and specially if you do not know if there might be a rock just underneath the thinnest top layer of snow...


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 Post subject: Re: How safe do you think gliding off big hills with a kite
PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:52 am 
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Here is one of the many reasons why I don't paraglide.

http://vimeo.com/32937390

I won't be able to loop out of it fast enough with sluggy and slow wings.


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 Post subject: Re: How safe do you think gliding off big hills with a kite
PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:07 am 
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I think Jake and I are going to have a similar perspective on this.

I like to paraglide, kitesurf and snowkite. I’m a new paragliding pilot, and I'll agree that a foil design has more integrity with regards to the life span of the wing and loading. The foil obviously has more attachment points, actual calculated numbers for integrity and hours in the air which are all pros. Not to mention all sorts of recoveries through turbulence.

The tube kite is single panel, has air filled bladders, just a handful of attachment points, and is less convenient. However, WON’T ANYONE AGREE that the speed, control, and stability of my 2012 Ozone Edge (in my case) TUBE kite adds an element of safety based on performance alone? It is so fast and so stable in turbulence I can land just right. Isn't that a PRO? As far as structural integrity...I load test it myself. We all know how overpowered you have to be to ride through 20+ inches of powder uphill, and the most insane kiteloops you can think of. Hours of riding is so similar to airtime. I back up my hook and inspect my kite and lines, just as you’d do with a paraglider.

We’re not flying cross country with varios and GPS. We’re doing gaps and ridge soaring, not to mention that my Edge would have sliced through this turbulence like butter…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jm5tiw2ICh0&feature=fvst
(Less than 30 sec)

I think the safety issue is how comfortable I feel in turbulence on a tube kite. Perhaps even more than integrity. I shouldn’t be alone on this one, and I wonder if we should be asking if paragliding is safe?

How about driving on the freeway? Is flying off big hills as safe as driving on the freeway?


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 Post subject: Re: How safe do you think gliding off big hills with a kite
PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:50 am 
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webhiker wrote:
What a bunch of chops. Why not just man up and BUY yourself a paraglider?
Or do you kiteboard with a paraglider?


um........because you can't kite up the hill with a paraglider. Not even if you were a chop :thumb:


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