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 Post subject: Re: Best Old school Kites?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:02 pm 
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if you feel more comfortable with the 14, go for it.
But do try again a bigger kite next season to see if you can handle it.
And do pay attention to turning speed...with my 18 I land the most % of my tricks...with 14 the least...because of being too fast!


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 Post subject: Re: Best Old school Kites?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:32 pm 
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Tnx for the tips guys

For security issues, i think its better to evolve progressivly to bigger kites... Im used to ride a 12m, so ill get a 14, and maybe in a couple of years ill be on a 16, or a 18...

And foir the dude that mentioned Epic, I love the Ltd Edition of onte of theyr kites, but we are discussing here kites with the ML...

I ride another brand too, but they don have the ML, thats why we talked a lot about north...

I dont doubt about the good qualitis of epic

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 Post subject: Re: Best Old school Kites?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 2:09 pm 
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And do pay attention to turning speed...with my 18 I land the most % of my tricks...with 14 the least...because of being too fast!


This is so ture! Even more when learning new tricks. The bigger kite will move slower and give you more hang time (to make mistakes and learn the tricks) once you got it down its easier to pull of the trick on a smaller kite.

People get it in their mine that a big kite is dangerous and I'm not sure why. most people will not even come near my 16m. Ok if your kiting off storm fronts and have unpredictable wind this would be an issue for sure.

I must say the Dyno reminds me of the refined wing feeling you get from a foil. The foil feels...... so smooth and refined. A few guys have tested it here and said its almost boring to fly because its so stable.

good luck!


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 Post subject: Re: Best Old school Kites?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:59 pm 
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konetoniolo wrote:
And foir the dude that mentioned Epic, I love the Ltd Edition of onte of theyr kites, but we are discussing here kites with the ML...


Hello konetoniolo,

I was that "dude".
Excuse my ignorance but what is a ML? Micro loop?
The subject (and original poster) never mentioned anything about a ML. Strange to me that you took over this thread and bash down my question.

Cheers anyway Dude!


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 Post subject: Re: Best Old school Kites?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 1:34 pm 
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in the beginnig they never did discuss the ML subject, but those last post i was talking with them about it

seacrh in google mor north micro loop images (i got one, but dont know how to post images here)

A decent stopper may also do its job.

I never used a ML, but Toby says that its the best for old school moves

Thats why we where tlking about north, only north and core have it.

An BTW, sry about the dude, i was tiping and forgot ur users name.

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 Post subject: Re: Best Old school Kites?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:45 pm 
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ML = Micro Loop

I use the ML for all non rotating tricks.

I always ride very powered...never got hurt...only got hurt once when in 25 knots I used a 12 after a perfect 16m session...the 12 I mis-steered a bit...and bang, my rip got hurt...

And I understand that only very few progress with small kites and the hooked tricks. If you have a bit more age, get a bigger kite and progress again. Otherwise you will get hurt.


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 Post subject: Re: Best Old school Kites?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:52 pm 
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Damn, im always in doubt...

since its a lot of money to expend, hehehe

One uqestion... this weekend i tried the 14m rebel. loved it... but the sales man told me to get a fuse... he says its as good as a rebel bit without the 5th line, thet can be dangerous... and says that the bar feel is better...


can anyone help me about that issue? is the fuse realy better? or is it faster??

they do have both for sell, in th 14m size.

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 Post subject: Re: Best Old school Kites?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 2:10 pm 
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konetoniolo wrote:
Damn, im always in doubt...

since its a lot of money to expend, hehehe

One uqestion... this weekend i tried the 14m rebel. loved it... but the sales man told me to get a fuse... he says its as good as a rebel bit without the 5th line, thet can be dangerous... and says that the bar feel is better...


can anyone help me about that issue? is the fuse realy better? or is it faster??

they do have both for sell, in th 14m size.

tnx


Fuse is not the kite your after, it will work but not the best fit.

my understand about fuse (never been on one):
- Don't take my word look at the site north website, Fuse Freeride / Wave / Freestyle
- Its for sure faster
- My guess it will also have less bar pressure

Rebel
- Slower kite
- better low end (hard to tell at the end of the day, but you dont care about this)
- 5 line (this is important)

Without getting to technical;
The fifth line, because its a "loaded 5th" distributes the weight though jumps and causes less kite distortion while it holds your weight in jumps. I also think the rebel will have better hang time due to less distortion while jumping. Also the fifth line makes these kite extremely stable.

As your not wave riding you have no reason to concern yourself with the 5th being dangerous and its really to big of a kite to be wave riding anyway (you could wave ride with it but why?)

Know you asked for an "old school kite" go with the Rebel.


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 Post subject: Re: Best Old school Kites?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 2:16 pm 
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Tnx Bro,

Ill go for the rebel then! already made deal with my old Cab SB, and ill get my rebel before the weekend to start some moves :)

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 Post subject: Re: Best Old school Kites?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 2:50 pm 
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Keep us informed about your progression!

Enjoy!


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