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 Post subject: Zeeko ultimate bar no clamcleat no depower straps?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:21 pm 
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The new 2012 Zeeko bar introdiuces the UDS depower system, no clamcleat no depower straps, how does the depower system work?
watch the video : click here
that's the futur


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 Post subject: Re: Zeeko ultimate bar no clamcleat no depower straps?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:57 pm 
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Seems very nice to me, been waiting for a new adjuster solution!!
But one Question is remaining for me:
What if for example I'm full powered - a gust hits me and Ì'm going to be overpowered. I have sheeted the Bar out for minimum power - but to get less power with the adjuster - I have to Sheet the Bar IN Again (creating more power in this moment)?
No critics - just asking...


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:58 pm 
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Nice. Really like it. Looks very neat and clean. :thumb: :thumb:


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 Post subject: Re: Zeeko ultimate bar no clamcleat no depower straps?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:01 pm 
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I like the concept but I will never use one. I'm short and I would never be able to reach the trim system or bar if it went all the way out. I'll stick to my clam cleats and above bar trim. Nice to see something different though.


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 Post subject: Re: Zeeko ultimate bar no clamcleat no depower straps?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:57 am 
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:congrats:

Excellent idea with a result of thinking outside of the box :thumb:

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 Post subject: Re: Zeeko ultimate bar no clamcleat no depower straps?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:09 am 
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sorry guys,,, UDS already been haha
http://www.ikiteboarding.com/kiteboardi ... etail.aspx

i reckon the naish UDS would work well with a bow kite


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 Post subject: Re: Zeeko ultimate bar no clamcleat no depower straps?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:20 am 
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I like the concept but I will never use one. I'm short and I would never be able to reach the trim system or bar if it went all the way out. I'll stick to my clam cleats and above bar trim. Nice to see something different though.

Have a look at this Joe,( min 1:33):

2012 Zeeko ultimate bar keeps the arms length adjustment from the 2011 model, I don't know too many bars out there, that has this feature.

It may be the bar for you just give it a try!



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 Post subject: Re: Zeeko ultimate bar no clamcleat no depower straps?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:24 am 
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Pretty cool. It's definitely different, but is it better?

I had the same thought, when you are overpowered and want to depower, you have to pull the stopper towards you so you can't keep the bar out. I can't figure it out in my head, for every inch you pull, do you get two inches of depower?

My other question is, when you get hit by a gust or do a kite loop and the front lines load up, will the system slip and power up? I don't see what stops that from happening.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 5:03 am 
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I don't really see the point in this


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 Post subject: Re: Zeeko ultimate bar no clamcleat no depower straps?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:40 am 
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This is a very re-freshing idea!

Also, kudos for a clear and informative video - I wish all product videos could focus more on the product itself rather than on the latest tricks that the company team riders happen to be throwing. :thumb:

dyyylan wrote:
I don't really see the point in this

The point is having a clean, above-the-bar depower system with no dangling depower rope. I don't know about you, but personally I have several times had a dangling depower rope twist itself around the lines, sometimes actually tying itself into a knot around the center lines. That can make it take longer to adjust the depower (because you first have to sort out the depower line mess), and in a worst-case scenario I think it could actually disable your ability to release to safety. Also, on two occasions I've had a dangling depower rope twist itself around a bar-end - not a nice situation.

Personally I really like the clean uncluttered look of this new approach. I'd love a chance to test it in practice.

That being said, I agree with this:

kitecomedy wrote:
What if for example I'm full powered - a gust hits me and Ì'm going to be overpowered. I have sheeted the Bar out for minimum power - but to get less power with the adjuster - I have to Sheet the Bar IN Again (creating more power in this moment)?

I think this is a valid concern... It appears that for every inch that you effectively shorten the front lines by pulling on the the adjuster, you would have to pull the bar towards you by more than one inch, thereby actually temporarily powering the kite up more (until you stop pulling on the adjuster and can push your bar away again). That is obviously not ideal.

Also, I don't like the idea of a small pulley being part of the depower system, given the amount of load on the front lines. That seems like a possible point of failure. It might be better to replace that with a low-friction stainless steel ring instead.


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