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 Post subject: Re: Zeeko ultimate bar no clamcleat no depower straps?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:50 am 
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bob10 wrote:
sorry guys,,, UDS already been haha

i reckon the naish UDS would work well with a bow kite

The only thing this new UDS depower system shares with the old Naish UDS bar is the name...


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 Post subject: Re: Zeeko ultimate bar no clamcleat no depower straps?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:58 am 
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I don't see the similarities to UDS either.

The Naish "Intro to kiteboarding" video has a section on their UDS too.


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 Post subject: Re: Zeeko ultimate bar no clamcleat no depower straps?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:04 am 
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nice idea. looks pretty clean. 3 lines going though the bar means lots lines to wear out fast.


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 Post subject: Re: Zeeko ultimate bar no clamcleat no depower straps?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:34 am 
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plummet wrote:
nice idea. looks pretty clean. 3 lines going though the bar means lots lines to wear out fast.



Not only that, but the whole power trim system will not work if there
is even just a bit of wear on the silver lines.

Also looks like replacing a worn out silver line will be a pain.


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 Post subject: Re: Zeeko ultimate bar no clamcleat no depower straps?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:36 am 
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The new Zeeko bar lookes very clean, no more dangling depower strap! :thumb:


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 Post subject: Re: Zeeko ultimate bar no clamcleat no depower straps?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:25 pm 
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FredBGG wrote:
plummet wrote:
nice idea. looks pretty clean. 3 lines going though the bar means lots lines to wear out fast.



Not only that, but the whole power trim system will not work if there
is even just a bit of wear on the silver lines.

Also looks like replacing a worn out silver line will be a pain.


What do you mean by "silver lines" FredBGG?


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 Post subject: Re: Zeeko ultimate bar no clamcleat no depower straps?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:05 pm 
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FredBGG wrote:
plummet wrote:
nice idea. looks pretty clean. 3 lines going though the bar means lots lines to wear out fast.



Not only that, but the whole power trim system will not work if there
is even just a bit of wear on the silver lines.

Also looks like replacing a worn out silver line will be a pain.

The 'trim' tabs are attached by a Prussic (?) knot I think and should be self tightening. Replacing the depower (silver) line should be only a little more time consuming.
http://www.animatedknots.com/prusik/index.php

As someone above mentioned though, having to sheet in to adjust the trim might suck a lot... waiting for reviews :)


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 Post subject: Re: Zeeko ultimate bar no clamcleat no depower straps?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:38 pm 
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The big plus seems to be that the adjuster is at the stopper?

The only plus compared to the 2012 Cabrinha bar that I can see is that the Cabrinha system has elastic cords on the adjuster so you have to pull further. Otherwise the Cabrinha seems to be at least as good?


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 Post subject: Re: Zeeko ultimate bar no clamcleat no depower straps?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:20 pm 
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Very interesting solution, would like to see an independent review, is the system sand/line wear proof etc?
Nothing really special about it but I like the CL also, looks very easy to re-set.
The depower thing is a minor minus, I have never had to quickly ¨emergency¨ depower on a modern bar with slidable stopper and I kite in sometimes very gusty conditions.
I think anyone should prefer this to some of the below the bar depower systems that can be quite a pain to adjust when powered up.


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 Post subject: Re: Zeeko ultimate bar no clamcleat no depower straps?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:28 pm 
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Not a bad concept. Nice to see someone coming up with something new.

Wondering if it might evolve. Maybe no tabs at all but color coded line that you just grab and slide with no need to involve the stopper at all. Not being critical. Really it is cool to see something different.


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