I think the bandit 4 comes in 12 or 14. The bandit 3 had a 13,5 as far as I know.
From what I've dug up so far most say the rally has better low end than the bandit4.
Good to hear you think different, means the B4 ain't that bad for low end, depending on what size you were riding off course.
So how would you describe the differences between the two?
As far as turning speed goes, stability and bar pressure and such
Must have been bandit 3 13. Pretty sure the other was a 15, so... bandit 3s? Apologize for confusion.
My Rally 14 2011 is super fun. Today is kinda light, and will only be taking the 14 out with an old 6'6 surfboard. My opinion is that the Rally has a faster response and smaller loop. I am pretty sure that the bandit had more low end and was more stable in the air. It felt automatic in the air.
The costruction on the bandit appears rugged and solid. More so than the Rally. But, I put my Rally through hell, and it has only required minor patching.
I always use my Rally on the "outside line, outside knot, center line center knot" rigging. So its super responsive. When you change the rigging, by moving the outside lines to the iner pigtail on the wingtip, it becomes another kite, barely responsive to the bar.
Jumping, My rally is really great for jumping, and I kiteloop the hell out of the kite in light winds. To say the truth, I prefer my Rally because of how fast it is. Its very stable in the air, you know, how you can stall a kite? it can stall, but itll find itself and no big jerking.
I can unhook and pop some rallys with it too. I don't know how to compare this to the Fone. But if you compare to the RPM10, its not as easy to keep the kite powered during the railly. But it works.
For surfing, the Rally is great, just park and ride. I oftn downloop it to get speed (i ride backside). It really allows for a straight down the line attack. I have surfed with the Fone, same. I did not fell like downlooping it to get into waves, but I assume its fine.
Try them, you tell me how they feel. But there is no question in my mind, the Bandit has more low end.