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MattyRossJa · **Posted:** Tue May 01, 2012 1:03 am

knotwindy wrote:

wait, he has been kiting for 7 years, can not self launch, can not even launch with help and rides over a beginners(doing good to just stay upwind) lines and it is the other persons fault? really?

yeh and he says i'm a wreckless kiter because i self launch and self land ,,, he was one of the first ppl to learn to kite in jamaica , but he is shit ... he prob learnt 7 yrs ago , and never really kited since , he still has to stop , and then tack lol ... i laugh everytime he brags about it

MattyRossJa · **Posted:** Tue May 01, 2012 1:04 am

plummet wrote:

on my planet of rules. unless the chick and her kite have been downed long enough for others to get out of the way. then its the dudes fault.

So...

if chick crashed kite then 1 second later dude smacks into line. chick at fault. shouldnt be crashing kites that close upwind of people. if you can control your kite get down wind and out of the say.

if chick crashes kite 40 seconds later numb nuts steam rolls into her. dude is at fault.

he had at least 10 seconds before hitting her lines

MattyRossJa · **Posted:** Tue May 01, 2012 1:06 am

Kamikuza wrote:

plummet wrote:

if chick crashed kite then 1 second later dude smacks into line...

That there is what we like to technically term "a accident" :yes:

they happen sometimes, you know ...

If dude had chance to get out of way, then it's his own fault.
Either way, it's the nature of the beast - you don't wanna pay, don't play :nono:

Say, how does a kite (12m) that is downwind of a downed kite (9m) get shredded by the upwind kites' lines? Just wondering cos the geometry don't pan out ... unless I'm reading wrong :-?

"Don't know the basics"
Ah I see, that explains it. OP's fault for doing it all for them :naughty:

the 9m was down , she trying to relaunch , think the kite came up slightly , and his body went just under her lines and lines crossed and the kites spiraled around each other , and were twisted for a bit with pressure still in the kites laying in the water and i guess one was still tryign to relaunch and somehow the 12m twisted upon itself and shredded

MattyRossJa · **Posted:** Tue May 01, 2012 1:09 am

POACHER wrote:

Sounds like KOOKFEST 2012...

I'd find a new spot and/or people to ride with.

definitely , one reason i love kiting alone , only thing to worry about is myself

MattyRossJa · **Posted:** Tue May 01, 2012 1:10 am

uncool wrote:

Before assigning blame, we need to know: Is she hot?

not reallyyyyy , but she is a Marley LOLOL some might find that hot :jump:

plummet · **Posted:** Tue May 01, 2012 1:31 am

ok based on that dude is a cock. 10 seconds is a life time to get out of the way.

edt · **Posted:** Tue May 01, 2012 2:07 am

MattyRossJa wrote:

the 9m was down , she trying to relaunch , think the kite came up slightly , and his body went just under her lines and lines crossed and the kites spiraled around each othe

he a kook. saw someone relaunching and rammed himself right into it.

Blame assigned.

knotwindy · **Joined:** Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:49 am **Posts:** 249

whose gonna be blamed for damaging his gear the next time he shows so he can't do it again? :lol:

RichardM · **Posted:** Tue May 01, 2012 10:40 pm

plummet wrote:

ok based on that dude is a cock. 10 seconds is a life time to get out of the way.

I AGREE.

And if he didn't have time to turn or stop, it would either be no one's fault or HIS FAULT because HE WAS TOO CLOSE TO HER. (likely checking her out or trying to impress)

Generally, you can assume that the upwind kiter can not create a bigger buffer because they are presumably already going upwind as much as possible. On the other hand, the downwind kiter can always move downwind (unless it's too crowded - in which case = blameless accident).

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edt · **Posted:** Tue May 01, 2012 11:37 pm

RichardM wrote:

Generally, you can assume that the upwind kiter can not create a bigger buffer because they are presumably already going upwind as much as possible. On the other hand, the downwind kiter can always move downwind (unless it's too crowded - in which case = blameless accident).

Reasonable but not the rules of the sea. Leeward rider has right of way which means if the windward rider can't go any more windward he or she must tack to get out of the way.

And of course there is one over riding rule which trumps everything else, starboard, leeward, overtacking, powerboard, jetski this rule is the most important

Do not crash into someone else

Kook violated that simple rule. Doesn't matter what direction you are going or where you are.

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