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 Post subject: Re: "Waveriding"& "Waveriders"
PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 12:34 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: "Waveriding"& "Waveriders"
PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 1:11 pm 
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Hey if you can milk a wave better than me on a tt go for it and take your turn in the lineup, no probs with that.
However this will not be possible as with the tt you will always have to use your kite to find enough power to stay afloat, the wave will not help you there, and you will no longer be surfing it.
Take your tt to the lagoon or in the flats, or chops, or in closeouts, or beachbreaks, but be cool and let the surfers ride the waves.
FYI I give windsurfers priority the whole time, as they are a lot more limited to the amount of waves they can catch.
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 Post subject: Re: "Waveriding"& "Waveriders"
PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 1:52 pm 
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However if you have been riding the wave in front of your house for 35+ years, "discovered" it, named it, and been there alone for over 25years, I reckon you can call it yours.


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Hey you know how lonely it gets out there.
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 Post subject: Re: "Waveriding"& "Waveriders"
PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 3:51 pm 
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Nico wrote:
Hey if you can milk a wave better than me on a tt go for it and take your turn in the lineup, no probs with that.
However this will not be possible as with the tt you will always have to use your kite to find enough power to stay afloat, the wave will not help you there, and you will no longer be surfing it.
Take your tt to the lagoon or in the flats, or chops, or in closeouts, or beachbreaks, but be cool and let the surfers ride the waves.
FYI I give windsurfers priority the whole time, as they are a lot more limited to the amount of waves they can catch.
Nico


You have some really good opinions and views normally Nico - but this is IMO the worst bullshit I've ever heard !

You can ride waves with TT's just as well as with surfboards - of course a different style and not the same glide, but I see absolutely no reason why anyone with a surfboard should have ANY priority whatsoever over a TwinTip riding waves just at the break/shoulder :wink:

A TT on an awesome wavespot with a good lineup - riding and disturbing the "waveriders" by doing other stuff than riding near the good surf zone - is out of line IMO, true and I agree with you there.

As these spots are rare, and spots for doing "other things" than riding at the curl/crest/shoulder are very common 8)


But there is in my eyes absolutely no reason to diss anyone who rides waves well on TT's and take their turn in the lineup - and I have seen a few TT guys who rips much better than most on surfboards, in the waves :naughty:

Not many around - as most chooses surfboards instead, but there ARE a few :D

The problem is, that before you see them rip and ride the waves more hardcore than you can - you think they are in the wrong place (as seen very often too, true), and then you instinctly will connect TT's with freestylers or less experienced "dopeys" disturbing others.
And this is not always true - eventhough it CAN also be the case (often), I agree :wink:

What will be next - is it only those riding either with or only those without footstraps that are allowed to ride the good waves ?
Or only those riding kitesurfboards and not those using surfboards ? (or opposite - you get the idea...)


So because of natural reasons and choices, most are using directionals in waves - but a few who really uses the apex of the wave at the crest excellent - uses TwinTips, and they should have exactly the same respect to do so as the directionals IMO :thumb:


As long as you dont totally go across and destroy the lineup and system everybody else is using - THEN you are out of line, and/or at the wrong place :o


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 Post subject: Re: "Waveriding"& "Waveriders"
PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 5:28 pm 
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 6:35 pm 
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how many times have we heard

it's not about the tools, it's about the person using them
attitude is almost everything


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 Post subject: Re: "Waveriding"& "Waveriders"
PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 8:43 pm 
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Yep thats fair. if theres a line up of dudes doing their thing i'm not going to bust in and break the rythem. In that instance they are there first they get to lay down the rules of engagement.

Some days i feel like riding down the line tacking way the hell back out and then riding down the line again. Other days i feel like sticking smack in the beach break boosting airs of the wave lips and riding a waves upwind to do i all over again. In truth i usually prefer than method to riding down the line. I can session about one boost and one wave ride per minute in this mode and it gives me huge grin factor.


The breaks I kite are all "shore" breaks and I'm always amused at how far out the kiters on surfboards go before coming back in. I assume that despite their protestations, they do so because it is harder for them to go upwind and therefore need a longer tack to get back to the peak than people on TTs.

I consider this transoceanic travel a waste of time and so long as I can stay closer to, or in, the surf without preventing them from taking a wave, there is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON TO FOLLOW THEIR TIME CONSUMING ROTATION.

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 Post subject: Re: "Waveriding"& "Waveriders"
PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 9:21 pm 
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That's the first I've heard about twin tips going upwind better than surfboards.

I'll guess I'll find out.


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 Post subject: Re: "Waveriding"& "Waveriders"
PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 10:23 pm 
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kazi wrote:
That's the first I've heard about twin tips going upwind better than surfboards.

I'll guess I'll find out.


I did not mean that TTs necessarily go upwind better than SBs. There are obviously a vast number of factors that go into how well a particular board goes upwind.

I meant that in GENERAL it seems that the TT RIDERS do not need the excessive transoceanic travel that SB riders tend to perform. I know that I virtually never need tacks as long as what most of the rotation kiters are doing.

If not to maximize upwind travel, why would a SB rider want to spend his time mowing?

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