Royal kites.. Wheres my kites

blind rider · **Joined:** Thu May 31, 2012 8:24 am **Posts:** 4

I dont get it?
Cant they just refund the money ?
The damage they are doing here in such a small market never comes back.
Love to see what was in that email Sprocket...

Best of luck (thats why I ride Flexifoil)

Jobe

oldkiter · **Joined:** Sun Jun 12, 2005 1:46 am **Posts:** 158

Just curious - did you use a credit card or ???? that you can then dispute the charges for the kites??????

Haugastol · **Joined:** Sat Dec 24, 2011 2:06 am **Posts:** 14

Yes,
If you used Credit card when purchasing, you can dispute the transaction and get 100% of money back.

But, payment for a larger number of kites is often done by wire ....

Nectar · **Joined:** Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:08 pm **Posts:** 42

it's called a chargeback, and this is exactly what they are for.

Anabatic_co_nz · **Posted:** Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:58 pm

A charge back is a great guarantee if you are a normal retail customer buying 1-2 kites, but for dealers we all pay by IMT, International Money Transfer there is no undo button.

So if you send your money like Matt did to stock his shop you need to be able to trust the supplier will ship the kites on time.
It is for this reason Matt has spoken up, he has waited around 6 months with nothing other than continued promises saying the Kites are coming. The Kiteforum is a real last resort tactic to take for a dealer. We have no collective or other means for resolution when the #2 hits the fan!
You try running a business for 6 months with no stock, the loss incurred is far greater than the value of the stock as it breaks the momentum of cash flow.
One good to note is these types of issues in the kitesurfing industry are very rare.
It really is a pretty cool industry to be involved in.

Are things looking any better since you spoke up here Matt?
And how about the other guys, you getting any response?

kitewise · **Posted:** Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:43 pm

Nectar wrote:

it's called a chargeback, and this is exactly what they are for.

Chargebacks generally only work if the seller has the money in their account!
This is exactly how ECLIPSE started bs'ing their dealers! Lots of lip service.
Might want to pursue legal action now. Don't wait. You could always stop it if by some miracle, you get your kites.
Best of luck.
P

MattyRossJa · **Posted:** Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:00 pm

i've never heard of Royal kites , i hope you get a full refund and then some

BigPaul · **Joined:** Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:54 am **Posts:** 113

Any luck yet buddy?

Anabatic_co_nz · **Posted:** Sat Jun 09, 2012 3:24 am

Sounds like Matt's been right Royally _ _ _ _ _ _.

Nectar · **Joined:** Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:08 pm **Posts:** 42

Ahh, I see, thanks for the info

Anabatic_co_nz wrote:

A charge back is a great guarantee if you are a normal retail customer buying 1-2 kites, but for dealers we all pay by IMT, International Money Transfer there is no undo button.

So if you send your money like Matt did to stock his shop you need to be able to trust the supplier will ship the kites on time.
It is for this reason Matt has spoken up, he has waited around 6 months with nothing other than continued promises saying the Kites are coming. The Kiteforum is a real last resort tactic to take for a dealer. We have no collective or other means for resolution when the #2 hits the fan!
You try running a business for 6 months with no stock, the loss incurred is far greater than the value of the stock as it breaks the momentum of cash flow.
One good to note is these types of issues in the kitesurfing industry are very rare.
It really is a pretty cool industry to be involved in.

Are things looking any better since you spoke up here Matt?
And how about the other guys, you getting any response?

kitewise wrote:

Nectar wrote:

it's called a chargeback, and this is exactly what they are for.

Chargebacks generally only work if the seller has the money in their account!
This is exactly how ECLIPSE started bs'ing their dealers! Lots of lip service.
Might want to pursue legal action now. Don't wait. You could always stop it if by some miracle, you get your kites.
Best of luck.
P

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