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 Post subject: Re: strapless surfkiting turns costly...
PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 8:22 pm 
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Been damaging a lot of boards in the last 6 years, Firewire kitesurf boards hold up really good, but not forever, no board can.

I'm 95 kg and jumping strapless in every wind. Breaking is part of riding strapless, it's the way it is...


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 Post subject: Re: strapless surfkiting turns costly...
PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:25 pm 
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Been on a few that gave up...

The Skater have been whitout a dent yet, and it`s from 2011 october. :o

Mayby they are on to something..
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If that shit makes the boards dont have dents, that turn into Delamination, that then will break the thing..

How many Skaters are broke around others part?


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 Post subject: Re: strapless surfkiting turns costly...
PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 2:40 am 
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i got an older (2010/11- 6'2)/6'1? naish surfboard and it has taken a beating, big airs and hard landing no worries... but i like super light boards cos they fly higher in my experience unstrapped - cant win - love that board ben wilson sells too that i have ridden with teh yellow and blue stripe..?, super awesome turns, but would probably fold it in half quite quickly.. a board will be more weighty if u want it stronger tho.


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 Post subject: Re: strapless surfkiting turns costly...
PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 2:54 am 
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longwhitecloud wrote:
a board will be more weighty if u want it stronger tho.


Yup I am guessing we're seeing a triangular trade off between

strength - weight - price

You can only have two.

For me though, going with a little shorter wider board, makes it lighter due to size. :-)


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 Post subject: Re: strapless surfkiting turns costly...
PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:03 am 
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Last year when I was in Oahu, I was using an Amundson board. These boards are a bit pricey, but they shred and can withstand a beating.

When I was talking to the shaper (John Amundson), he said he expects those boards to last him a full season... and he jumps the crap out of them. A season for him is probably over 120 days of kiting. When you think about it, that's definitely fair for a wave kiteboard.


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 Post subject: Re: strapless surfkiting turns costly...
PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:57 pm 
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I'm selling my 2012 Global 5'10" if you happen to be in the UK :P It had an accident but is now fully repaired... £300 ? I need to release some funds for a FLY!


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 Post subject: Re: strapless surfkiting turns costly...
PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 7:22 pm 
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I do a lot of jumping on strapless surfboards and have been through my fair share of boards as well.

I just picked up my newest custom one from Jellyfish Boards. It's short and wide, amazing for huge jumps and hard landings. Yes, it is a bit heavier because I requested extreme durability but I don't have a problem keeping it on my feet in the air and it was very reasonably priced.


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 Post subject: Re: strapless surfkiting turns costly...
PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 9:05 am 
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I think that it is important that a board does not delaminate, but I also think that it is important for a board to give in a certain point so as to save the kiter's legs.

To many people out there riding really beefy boards and busting their knee, ACL or something else.

I chose to ride Aviso boards. They are hollow carbon fiber boards.
I have cracked two of them, but they are easy to repair. I cracked them when being thrown around in big surf and hitting the board. I'm sure it would have been ugly with a heavy beefy kite company board.

The Aviso's are easy to repair because they have no core and water entry does no harm at all.

Also the hollow construction with stiff rails gives the boards a very special flex pattern. While the board has stiff rails, the hull and deck have a lot of flex.

The deck flexes in absorbing impact and protecting you. The hull flexes to more or less concave absorbing shop like no other surfboards.


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 Post subject: Re: strapless surfkiting turns costly...
PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:08 am 
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I have popped many boards this winter! FireWire snapped in half on the secOnd session with a tiny jump (surf not kite specific), so I would not waste 1000 bucks on one of these . (though must admit my first one held up for months)

Tuff light held up for about a month (super light and unreal to ride)

. Naish global 6.0 has been indestructible but weighs a ton!!

I have a 5,10 *20 pu surfboard with 2 six on top and one
Six On the bottom which so far has been the winner! And any future boards will be custom with this glass. Also ask for the stronger glass (s type I think) a bit more expensive but so far worth it. Also I paddle this board on the small fat days.
I honestly think this is the best option for strength considering performance.


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 Post subject: Re: strapless surfkiting turns costly...
PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:30 pm 
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I bought a second hand surfboard for $150 and I have been riding and jumping it for at least 20 times and no problems yet, I figure even if break it now I could buy 5 more for the price I would pay for one Firewire or some other kitesurf specific board which I have found to be stiffer and heavier.


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