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 Post subject: Re: How to tune your kite bar
PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 8:53 am 
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Better make larks head loop instead of attaching the loops the clip; less load to the stitching in the line.


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 Post subject: Re: How to tune your kite bar
PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 10:33 am 
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Janus wrote:
Better make larks head loop instead of attaching the loops the clip; less load to the stitching in the line.


How does the larks head put less load on the stitching in the line?


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 Post subject: Re: How to tune your kite bar
PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 8:06 pm 
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I tried this on the F-One bar , and with the kite fully powered , and all the lines tight , the bar sits around 4" above the CL (not like in the video where he has it dead on). I tried adjusting the front lines(moving it in a knot) so that the bar sat on the CL when all the lines were tight , but when I went to launch the kite , it was so depowered I had to put it back to the orginal setting .


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 Post subject: Re: How to tune your kite bar
PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:59 am 
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supernoodles wrote:
Does the technique differ any for a 5 line bar kite like the Naish Torch? I guess the main 4 lines should all be the same length, but what about the 5th line?


On a 5th line kite I find it easier to stake the bar in the ground (put a screwdriver between the 2 depower lines in front of the bar on a north) and pull on the ends of the lines this way you can see which lines are shorter and by how much. Gives you an idea if you should be stretching or going for a new knot as well.

A word of caution. the 5th can be a bit tricky. On almost all 5 line kites, all lines are the same length. If using the method in the video and looking down the lines you are checking for slack on the 5th ABOVE the Y (closest to the kite). It is ok to have a little slack on the 5th BELOW the Y. The stopper at the Y allows the kite to be tensioned by the 5th even if the 5th is slack below the Y.

Tune the 5th so that all lines are the same length and the 5th is resting on the stopper at the Y. Ignoring a little slack below the Y.

If the the 5th is not against the stopper, the kite will deform in ways it was not designed when depower is pulled. When you pull the depower, a 5th that is too tight below the Y will stay the same length when you pull depower while the front lines get shorter. A 5th that is too LONG below the Y will have no effect on depower as it is already against the stopper and so will get shorter with the front lines as god intended it when depower is pulled.....

This is only valid for an "Active 5th" kite Vegas and Torch and North rebels are active 5th design. Not too sure about others.


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 Post subject: Re: How to tune your kite bar
PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 7:35 am 
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dt73775 wrote:
I tried this on the F-One bar , and with the kite fully powered , and all the lines tight , the bar sits around 4" above the CL (not like in the video where he has it dead on). I tried adjusting the front lines(moving it in a knot) so that the bar sat on the CL when all the lines were tight , but when I went to launch the kite , it was so depowered I had to put it back to the orginal setting .


Not every kite uses the "all lines equal" setting so there is nothing wrong with your kite. Tuning your bar as mentioned is great for most kites and will sort out unequal line lengths but final tuning should always be done by flying the kite.


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