something didn't seem right about the kites in the vids , then i read your 2nd comment about the line lengths ... wow ... poor

Agree! Thats why I dont watch North PRODUCT clips. To watch a dumb teamrider perform doesent say much about a kite. Go to this website instead for review clips:

http://gleiten.tv/index.php/video/actio ... j8vke4&/1/

Its in german, but at least you see some flying action

Funny. When the review of the new Rally came out on gleiten.tv some days ago I thought about starting quite exactly this thread. Was just too lazy. I had seen the new product video of the Rally and found it quite lame and couldnt believe that there was nothing in it where I could see how the kite turns. Then I saw the gleiten.tv-review (http://gleiten.tv/index.php/video/action/view/page/345/v/730/?SGL_CMS_SESSID=ra4ug5s0bcegpdn7d9b3nrn5t3&/1/) and now I have a much better idea how the kite behaves in tight turns. I am interested in the 9 and the turning of it looks great for a surfboard.

I agree that promotion videos have to be sexy. Thats why I like to watch them sometimes even if I am not interested in the product at all. But why cant they show us how a kite behaves in a kite-product video?

i remember James May on Top Gear said once , said it was ridiculous that car companies are testing all their cars on the nurburgring , because all their suspensions these days are trying to be sporty and resulting in being extremely uncomfortable on normal roads ... yeh i agree they have to be sexy ... but instead of bragging that FINAL TESTING was done in the perfect conditions of Maui , how bout final testing done in the worst of conditions instead of the best of conditions , just a personal opinion i think that would impress me more , documenting the kite performing in shitty conditions ...

i agree i love to watch most trailers mainly for the excitement rather than examining the actual kite .. it would be cool if kite companies had a system like clothing companies , u can order a demo kite to use for a day or two to see if u like it and see if it's suitable in your area before committing to buy it , that would be very hard to manage obviously .. in a dream world again

wow I think i saw more of this kite in the first 30 seconds than in the entire 5 minutes of the official North Rebel 2013 trailer

My guess is they focus on the riders because honestly there isn't much new with kite design these days. Its just a matter of mixing pre-existing flavors to get different performance traits and fine tuning from there. True innovation has really leveled off over the last few years.

Naish Fly - pulls like an 18m turns like a 12m.

Why not have a tug of war? 2 guys tied back to back. One guy with another manufacturers 18m and the other with the Fly. Both kites held just off the beach in the same wind?

Then if the Fly equalled the 18m, show the same Fly kite turning in the same wind as a 12m. Or even show the kite turning.

Just saying its so means nothing.

What size is this kite?

And the winner is............


http://www.libtechwaterboarding.com/technology/


and the name "waterboarding?"

Do surf with it or torture someone with it? hard to tell from the clip.

I think Epic kinda does this - buy it, try it - if you hate it, send it back for a full refund. At least, D offered that service to me... problem is - freakin shipping costs!

saw this today and thought it was excellent :

http://vimeo.com/46722924