i don't compare riding a bike to kiting here. but some young potential kiter material guy can compare prices on gear and decide to ride a bike.davesails7 wrote:eree wrote:no wonder, if for the price of the bar only you can buy pretty decent mountain bike with the lifespan ten times or more longer.Exactly. You can't compare riding a bike to kiting!BigPaul wrote:All that said I never look out of the window and think what an awesome day to go riding like a do with kitesurfing
I agree that the price of equipment is getting pretty ridiculous. BUT look at what you are getting: A giant wing that weighs just a few pounds that flys in the air while you steer it and ride a little board at 25+ knots behind it and launch up 20+ feet in the air at will with nice soft landings at the end!
at least you have a choice with bikes, and your hardtail is made of high tech metal alloys and not of PET bottles!Jono 111 wrote:Well, its even more ridiculous to compare it to the cost of a low level bike.
My last hardtail cost me circa £2000. Its a decent bike but still not over the top. The transmission will last a year and a bit, then cost £600 to overhaul + tyres, tubes, grips, pads, fork servicing and so on. And any decent full susser will cost you a minimum £3000. So the analogy is pretty flawed....
If you have the same interest in bikes as kitesurfing, you're not riding around on a £350 quid bike.
yeah general Chinese inflation is relatively low, actually artificially low...but that is a different discussion...however labor costs are rising really friggin fast as they run out of labor (not due to a lack of people, but due to a lack of people around factories). Most of China is still rural.Jono 111 wrote:Hey TommyDelly - you've posted a couple of links, but I'm sorry but I'm not sure what your point is? I looked at the first one briefly, quite a religious, the end is nigh type affair.
Taut - my point was simply that inflation is low - and that in the Chinese case, probably not the determinative factor in the retail cost of a bar. I'm also constantly amazed by the number of people who think that companies should be run as socialist enterprises. I'm not in that camp or commercially naive.
You just took this conversation into the toilet.TommyDelly wrote:I have to bite coz you brought up socialism
This name calling, socialist, komunist, blabla is another american brainwash
I can brake it down to you You have 2 political wings: left, where the extreme is socialism and right, where the extreme is fascism and everything in between is BS (even this two extremes are not so different as you might think). Than you can say that in basis you only have two political ideas, so if you are not a socialist, you are a fascist!
In that case i would rather be a socialist Socialism works and stands on the basic idea of community(people) and that is in my opinion way better idea than the right(fascist) idea where the basic idea is state!
recoprianto wrote:You just took this conversation into the toilet.
recoprianto wrote:The bars are expensive because people pay it. If no ones buys them, the price goes down. It is really very simple.
I also said that.recoprianto wrote:Less expensive products probably have a combination of the following: less expensive materials, less R&D which means they are copying others products and are behind the technology curve, or limited support in the form of no shops or reps to talk to.
Totaly agree with you thererecoprianto wrote:Kiting is my #1 hobby, I am willing to pay whatever it takes to get the gear that I really want. Life is too short to ride gear you don't like.
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